1 00:00:03,590 --> 00:00:02,470 okay here is our interview with judd 2 00:00:05,590 --> 00:00:03,600 dunning 3 00:00:07,190 --> 00:00:05,600 did you have some type of political 4 00:00:10,150 --> 00:00:07,200 conversion at some point 5 00:00:11,110 --> 00:00:10,160 i did 9 11 was uh was with a wake-up 6 00:00:14,310 --> 00:00:11,120 call for me because 7 00:00:17,990 --> 00:00:14,320 i literally sold everything uh 8 00:00:21,269 --> 00:00:18,000 at uh colorado socialist university 9 00:00:22,150 --> 00:00:21,279 uh i was so brainwashed i went you went 10 00:00:24,870 --> 00:00:22,160 to boulder 11 00:00:25,509 --> 00:00:24,880 i went to fort collins for college okay 12 00:00:27,830 --> 00:00:25,519 yeah and 13 00:00:29,589 --> 00:00:27,840 the um it was amazing because the 14 00:00:31,669 --> 00:00:29,599 professors were so leftist 15 00:00:33,030 --> 00:00:31,679 i really don't remember ever having the 16 00:00:35,110 --> 00:00:33,040 counter dialogue 17 00:00:36,150 --> 00:00:35,120 and i was boom you know michael moore 18 00:00:39,030 --> 00:00:36,160 and al gore 19 00:00:40,709 --> 00:00:39,040 and oliver stone just consumed the 20 00:00:43,670 --> 00:00:40,719 clintons consumed us 21 00:00:44,869 --> 00:00:43,680 i ended up selling everything i became a 22 00:00:48,069 --> 00:00:44,879 pre-civil law 23 00:00:49,670 --> 00:00:48,079 uh civil liberties lawyer pre-law i was 24 00:00:52,229 --> 00:00:49,680 i signed up with the test 25 00:00:54,229 --> 00:00:52,239 and then um i took an acting class just 26 00:00:57,510 --> 00:00:54,239 to you know advance my sales and 27 00:00:59,670 --> 00:00:57,520 legal you know and i did well 28 00:01:01,990 --> 00:00:59,680 and uh i got kind of scouted and it's 29 00:01:03,990 --> 00:01:02,000 got a lot of incidents happened and then 30 00:01:05,429 --> 00:01:04,000 uh i ended up getting my final credits 31 00:01:08,230 --> 00:01:05,439 at act 32 00:01:09,429 --> 00:01:08,240 and uh i sold everything to become uh 33 00:01:11,590 --> 00:01:09,439 you know to 34 00:01:13,670 --> 00:01:11,600 swear off white oligarchical christian 35 00:01:15,910 --> 00:01:13,680 repressive america 36 00:01:16,789 --> 00:01:15,920 and you say so it helped me understand 37 00:01:18,230 --> 00:01:16,799 sold everything 38 00:01:19,749 --> 00:01:18,240 i mean first of all what did you have 39 00:01:21,109 --> 00:01:19,759 you're in college so i didn't know that 40 00:01:22,469 --> 00:01:21,119 much you know my dad just gave me a 41 00:01:23,990 --> 00:01:22,479 brand new car he's like what the hell 42 00:01:26,870 --> 00:01:24,000 man why are you selling his bra 43 00:01:27,990 --> 00:01:26,880 for graduation and you sold it and did 44 00:01:31,429 --> 00:01:28,000 what with the money 45 00:01:33,510 --> 00:01:31,439 uh i moved to europe okay 46 00:01:34,469 --> 00:01:33,520 with the intention of just hanging out 47 00:01:36,789 --> 00:01:34,479 or no 48 00:01:39,190 --> 00:01:36,799 just giving up on america you know i i 49 00:01:40,710 --> 00:01:39,200 really was that 50 00:01:42,230 --> 00:01:40,720 yeah and then i came back and the next 51 00:01:44,069 --> 00:01:42,240 thing you know i was in hollywood 52 00:01:45,510 --> 00:01:44,079 and what was just since we're going to 53 00:01:45,910 --> 00:01:45,520 be talking a lot of politics in this i 54 00:01:48,389 --> 00:01:45,920 mean 55 00:01:49,910 --> 00:01:48,399 what was your view of america at that 56 00:01:52,550 --> 00:01:49,920 time 57 00:01:53,429 --> 00:01:52,560 uh pretty much a very similar view to 58 00:01:56,469 --> 00:01:53,439 what the left is 59 00:01:58,310 --> 00:01:56,479 trying to sell again in 2020 you know is 60 00:02:01,350 --> 00:01:58,320 that systematic uh 61 00:02:04,789 --> 00:02:01,360 uh racial injustice is a key element a 62 00:02:07,270 --> 00:02:04,799 key problem that we were uh 63 00:02:08,070 --> 00:02:07,280 that we took this land brutally by force 64 00:02:11,510 --> 00:02:08,080 that were really 65 00:02:13,510 --> 00:02:11,520 run by the military industrial complexes 66 00:02:15,750 --> 00:02:13,520 relationship to war 67 00:02:17,589 --> 00:02:15,760 uh that were destroying the planet that 68 00:02:17,990 --> 00:02:17,599 you know we should create fairness over 69 00:02:24,949 --> 00:02:18,000 equal 70 00:02:26,070 --> 00:02:24,959 i mean it was a it was a pretty dark a 71 00:02:28,070 --> 00:02:26,080 dark uh 72 00:02:29,830 --> 00:02:28,080 place but you know you're you know a 73 00:02:31,350 --> 00:02:29,840 woman's right to choose is preeminent 74 00:02:33,190 --> 00:02:31,360 over life 75 00:02:34,390 --> 00:02:33,200 which i talk about in my book you know i 76 00:02:35,670 --> 00:02:34,400 mean i talk about this in my book at the 77 00:02:35,990 --> 00:02:35,680 front but i've been a hardcore check the 78 00:02:39,190 --> 00:02:36,000 box 79 00:02:40,470 --> 00:02:39,200 conservative for you know uh 15 years 80 00:02:42,229 --> 00:02:40,480 so what do you think made you 81 00:02:43,589 --> 00:02:42,239 susceptible to all those views at the 82 00:02:45,990 --> 00:02:43,599 time 83 00:02:47,430 --> 00:02:46,000 i'd just say a lack of a rational uh 84 00:02:48,710 --> 00:02:47,440 alternative discussion just similar to 85 00:02:49,430 --> 00:02:48,720 what they're doing right now in big tech 86 00:02:51,509 --> 00:02:49,440 and 87 00:02:53,110 --> 00:02:51,519 in our societies there's just silencing 88 00:02:55,110 --> 00:02:53,120 a descending view i just don't know 89 00:02:56,790 --> 00:02:55,120 i didn't have any mentors it's 90 00:02:57,190 --> 00:02:56,800 interesting my family's republican but 91 00:03:01,190 --> 00:02:57,200 they 92 00:03:02,790 --> 00:03:01,200 politics are like the bedroom 93 00:03:04,070 --> 00:03:02,800 you can leave them in your bedroom you 94 00:03:05,670 --> 00:03:04,080 know you didn't have to talk about them 95 00:03:06,390 --> 00:03:05,680 you could have good labor democrat 96 00:03:08,949 --> 00:03:06,400 friends 97 00:03:11,190 --> 00:03:08,959 which i still strive for today i have a 98 00:03:13,030 --> 00:03:11,200 lot of liberal friends 99 00:03:14,229 --> 00:03:13,040 and i'm trying to hold and create a 100 00:03:15,750 --> 00:03:14,239 container for them that's what the book 101 00:03:18,550 --> 00:03:15,760 was about you know because let me 102 00:03:19,990 --> 00:03:18,560 when you start losing so many people in 103 00:03:21,190 --> 00:03:20,000 your life thousands and thousands of 104 00:03:21,990 --> 00:03:21,200 people simply because you came out 105 00:03:24,070 --> 00:03:22,000 against obama 106 00:03:25,670 --> 00:03:24,080 simply because you came out in pro pro 107 00:03:28,149 --> 00:03:25,680 family pro pro gun 108 00:03:29,030 --> 00:03:28,159 pro small government there was just such 109 00:03:31,110 --> 00:03:29,040 and i talked about this 110 00:03:33,270 --> 00:03:31,120 book there was such a sea that when my 111 00:03:33,910 --> 00:03:33,280 dad died i went up to his cabin and i 112 00:03:36,550 --> 00:03:33,920 said hey 113 00:03:38,229 --> 00:03:36,560 uh you know let me make sure my facts 114 00:03:39,509 --> 00:03:38,239 are 100 clear i've been studying them 115 00:03:42,710 --> 00:03:39,519 for 15 years 116 00:03:43,990 --> 00:03:42,720 so i went into the discussions of 13.5 117 00:03:45,430 --> 00:03:44,000 reasons that i got from doing a 118 00:03:47,430 --> 00:03:45,440 politicon panel 119 00:03:48,710 --> 00:03:47,440 and i took you know evan sayett and eric 120 00:03:50,949 --> 00:03:48,720 golib and uh 121 00:03:52,309 --> 00:03:50,959 adam yenser and michael loftus and a 122 00:03:53,990 --> 00:03:52,319 number of other 123 00:03:56,869 --> 00:03:54,000 conservative minds that i said you know 124 00:03:59,429 --> 00:03:56,879 what are the core 13 reasons we choose 125 00:04:00,789 --> 00:03:59,439 ideology and what are the arguments 126 00:04:02,470 --> 00:04:00,799 and then you know we went into science 127 00:04:04,070 --> 00:04:02,480 history philosophy and journalism and we 128 00:04:05,350 --> 00:04:04,080 substantiated them and we looked at the 129 00:04:07,910 --> 00:04:05,360 alternatives we're like 130 00:04:08,710 --> 00:04:07,920 they're they once again they don't win 131 00:04:11,910 --> 00:04:08,720 it was almost like a 132 00:04:15,910 --> 00:04:11,920 principles 133 00:04:17,270 --> 00:04:15,920 to um to anchor in and distill and 134 00:04:19,110 --> 00:04:17,280 that's what i created the book for 135 00:04:20,469 --> 00:04:19,120 before the election was to to sway but 136 00:04:22,469 --> 00:04:20,479 we ended up coming out late because of 137 00:04:23,830 --> 00:04:22,479 coven so we rewrote the book 138 00:04:25,830 --> 00:04:23,840 and it was more about it's more of a 139 00:04:26,710 --> 00:04:25,840 conservative compendium of ideological 140 00:04:28,390 --> 00:04:26,720 thoughts 141 00:04:30,310 --> 00:04:28,400 of how you defend yourself and then how 142 00:04:32,310 --> 00:04:30,320 to argue and i think it's 143 00:04:33,749 --> 00:04:32,320 really it it's a great handbook for the 144 00:04:36,629 --> 00:04:33,759 the the road ahead 145 00:04:38,150 --> 00:04:36,639 what's interesting about it is that i uh 146 00:04:39,749 --> 00:04:38,160 even though i wrote it i don't hold it 147 00:04:42,629 --> 00:04:39,759 all in my head you know i'm not 148 00:04:44,390 --> 00:04:42,639 a jordan peterson i am not a ben shapiro 149 00:04:46,070 --> 00:04:44,400 like many of us you know we work for our 150 00:04:49,030 --> 00:04:46,080 ideological principles 151 00:04:50,870 --> 00:04:49,040 but then our arguments in practice we 152 00:04:52,390 --> 00:04:50,880 distill down our four or five points you 153 00:04:54,230 --> 00:04:52,400 know we've we distilled down how to 154 00:04:55,350 --> 00:04:54,240 break up our logical fallacies most of 155 00:04:57,510 --> 00:04:55,360 us need help because 156 00:04:59,189 --> 00:04:57,520 you know we're personally attacked now 157 00:05:00,070 --> 00:04:59,199 in a different way than we were before 158 00:05:01,590 --> 00:05:00,080 you know right 159 00:05:03,029 --> 00:05:01,600 you can get off your i can get somebody 160 00:05:03,749 --> 00:05:03,039 off their skis by calling them a bigoted 161 00:05:05,990 --> 00:05:03,759 and a racist 162 00:05:07,350 --> 00:05:06,000 you know or intellectually inferior or 163 00:05:10,469 --> 00:05:07,360 broken 164 00:05:12,629 --> 00:05:10,479 uh and then yeah what's that 165 00:05:13,670 --> 00:05:12,639 or a trumper i mean simply being a trump 166 00:05:16,629 --> 00:05:13,680 supporter is 167 00:05:17,430 --> 00:05:16,639 um ostracizes you and you know in and of 168 00:05:19,830 --> 00:05:17,440 itself 169 00:05:21,110 --> 00:05:19,840 absolutely absolutely so so tell us 170 00:05:22,950 --> 00:05:21,120 about how 911 171 00:05:24,790 --> 00:05:22,960 impacted your thinking and the 172 00:05:25,830 --> 00:05:24,800 conversion you had after 9 11. well it 173 00:05:28,469 --> 00:05:25,840 was interesting because i 174 00:05:30,230 --> 00:05:28,479 had a buddhist uh actually in this back 175 00:05:32,629 --> 00:05:30,240 property now that we're working out of 176 00:05:34,150 --> 00:05:32,639 um in the back of our property we had uh 177 00:05:35,990 --> 00:05:34,160 the buddhist teacher that my wife and i 178 00:05:37,590 --> 00:05:36,000 met through even though my wife is 179 00:05:39,350 --> 00:05:37,600 jewish and i'm christian we met at a 180 00:05:40,870 --> 00:05:39,360 buddhist uh retreat 181 00:05:42,710 --> 00:05:40,880 married and have jewish kids that we've 182 00:05:44,710 --> 00:05:42,720 raised um which makes us 183 00:05:46,390 --> 00:05:44,720 californian but this teacher was a you 184 00:05:47,990 --> 00:05:46,400 know as a buddhist any i you would think 185 00:05:51,749 --> 00:05:48,000 a buddhist would not be a hawk 186 00:05:54,950 --> 00:05:51,759 and he was kind of a neocon hawk and uh 187 00:05:56,790 --> 00:05:54,960 because of his connection to breaking 188 00:05:58,550 --> 00:05:56,800 through moral relativism to moral 189 00:05:59,749 --> 00:05:58,560 absolutism as the truths 190 00:06:00,950 --> 00:05:59,759 actually even resonate with the buddha 191 00:06:01,909 --> 00:06:00,960 the buddha you know the buddha believed 192 00:06:04,230 --> 00:06:01,919 in the 193 00:06:05,510 --> 00:06:04,240 natural you know anyway long story 194 00:06:07,270 --> 00:06:05,520 christ was definitely 195 00:06:09,990 --> 00:06:07,280 influenced by the eastern thought that 196 00:06:12,390 --> 00:06:10,000 came before him and you know i was 197 00:06:13,749 --> 00:06:12,400 i was open because i didn't expect the 198 00:06:15,830 --> 00:06:13,759 message to come from 199 00:06:16,950 --> 00:06:15,840 a one of the top buddhist mass to the 200 00:06:19,749 --> 00:06:16,960 united states of america 201 00:06:21,110 --> 00:06:19,759 based on truth so he cracked my lens and 202 00:06:22,790 --> 00:06:21,120 he invited me to a group and then a 203 00:06:24,309 --> 00:06:22,800 bunch of california liberals for 15 204 00:06:25,510 --> 00:06:24,319 years i call my family in a small 205 00:06:26,550 --> 00:06:25,520 private group called conservative 206 00:06:28,070 --> 00:06:26,560 conversation 207 00:06:29,510 --> 00:06:28,080 we just started reading books after 208 00:06:31,189 --> 00:06:29,520 books i remember when i got to liberal 209 00:06:33,830 --> 00:06:31,199 fascism with jonah goldberg 210 00:06:34,629 --> 00:06:33,840 who i've met now several times uh i was 211 00:06:36,309 --> 00:06:34,639 like 212 00:06:37,909 --> 00:06:36,319 wait a minute this is the big lie this 213 00:06:41,189 --> 00:06:37,919 is the big switch 214 00:06:43,830 --> 00:06:41,199 i've been sold the wrong uh 215 00:06:44,469 --> 00:06:43,840 the wrong story i i've been i i've given 216 00:06:47,990 --> 00:06:44,479 up my 217 00:06:51,029 --> 00:06:48,000 my my seniority of thought and emotion 218 00:06:54,070 --> 00:06:51,039 and choice and what was it about 219 00:06:54,950 --> 00:06:54,080 the 9 11 event itself that was some kind 220 00:06:56,950 --> 00:06:54,960 of a wake-up call 221 00:06:58,950 --> 00:06:56,960 i think for some of us it takes a crisis 222 00:06:59,990 --> 00:06:58,960 to awaken and i think what you know if 223 00:07:03,830 --> 00:07:00,000 you now i would say 224 00:07:05,830 --> 00:07:03,840 now looking back as a conservative is 225 00:07:07,589 --> 00:07:05,840 the more that i'm a big fan of military 226 00:07:09,350 --> 00:07:07,599 history i always have been but i wasn't 227 00:07:11,029 --> 00:07:09,360 looking at the right view 228 00:07:12,950 --> 00:07:11,039 and i think what we've done is we've 229 00:07:13,909 --> 00:07:12,960 started to tell like howard zinn's 230 00:07:16,469 --> 00:07:13,919 message 231 00:07:17,510 --> 00:07:16,479 that we're marauding opportunists versus 232 00:07:19,029 --> 00:07:17,520 the fact that we're reluctant 233 00:07:21,270 --> 00:07:19,039 interventionists 234 00:07:23,110 --> 00:07:21,280 that we don't steal oil fields we don't 235 00:07:25,189 --> 00:07:23,120 rape and pillage we don't take over 236 00:07:26,629 --> 00:07:25,199 countries you know after we leave them 237 00:07:27,510 --> 00:07:26,639 if anything we get drug into them too 238 00:07:29,589 --> 00:07:27,520 long because we're trying to actually 239 00:07:32,629 --> 00:07:29,599 put in the essence of democracy so 240 00:07:35,510 --> 00:07:32,639 911 was you know home court home court 241 00:07:36,390 --> 00:07:35,520 just you know we i was you and i were 242 00:07:38,629 --> 00:07:36,400 attacked 243 00:07:40,309 --> 00:07:38,639 directly on american soil we were on the 244 00:07:41,909 --> 00:07:40,319 edge of war 245 00:07:43,830 --> 00:07:41,919 and uh that's what it took for me to 246 00:07:46,150 --> 00:07:43,840 wake up yeah well 247 00:07:48,629 --> 00:07:46,160 what's amazing about that and looking 248 00:07:51,990 --> 00:07:48,639 back at it was that the patriotism 249 00:07:54,390 --> 00:07:52,000 that um of the response 250 00:07:55,189 --> 00:07:54,400 and people flying flags at their homes 251 00:07:56,950 --> 00:07:55,199 people flying 252 00:07:59,510 --> 00:07:56,960 them on their cars and so on i mean it 253 00:08:01,990 --> 00:07:59,520 really was a pretty unifying 254 00:08:03,189 --> 00:08:02,000 moment in many ways in america i mean 255 00:08:05,670 --> 00:08:03,199 bush 256 00:08:07,270 --> 00:08:05,680 here's a you know a republican president 257 00:08:09,029 --> 00:08:07,280 that for the most part 258 00:08:11,909 --> 00:08:09,039 republican presidents get absolutely 259 00:08:13,029 --> 00:08:11,919 slaughtered um but he had enormous 260 00:08:15,909 --> 00:08:13,039 support 261 00:08:16,469 --> 00:08:15,919 you know one won reelection uh pretty 262 00:08:18,309 --> 00:08:16,479 easily 263 00:08:20,950 --> 00:08:18,319 because the nation really came together 264 00:08:24,469 --> 00:08:20,960 and man does that seem a long time ago 265 00:08:27,909 --> 00:08:24,479 now i would flip it over and say that 266 00:08:29,909 --> 00:08:27,919 the unifying force of the wars after 911 267 00:08:31,189 --> 00:08:29,919 that kept bush in office for a second 268 00:08:34,469 --> 00:08:31,199 term 269 00:08:35,589 --> 00:08:34,479 is parallel in an inverse way as the 270 00:08:38,949 --> 00:08:35,599 medical tragic 271 00:08:41,990 --> 00:08:38,959 aberration being covered that took 272 00:08:44,070 --> 00:08:42,000 trump out and so a war on trump and a 273 00:08:45,269 --> 00:08:44,080 war on this virus that decimated his 274 00:08:48,550 --> 00:08:45,279 incumbent strong 275 00:08:51,750 --> 00:08:48,560 economy gave a no 276 00:08:54,310 --> 00:08:51,760 candidate uh party 277 00:08:56,070 --> 00:08:54,320 uh this victory and i think that's why 278 00:08:58,070 --> 00:08:56,080 we got paranoid and i think that's why 279 00:08:59,110 --> 00:08:58,080 we got suspicious that's why we checked 280 00:09:01,829 --> 00:08:59,120 into electoral 281 00:09:04,070 --> 00:09:01,839 uh college and and fraud so it's 282 00:09:06,710 --> 00:09:04,080 interesting so we were unified 283 00:09:08,710 --> 00:09:06,720 by a tragic event and the dems were 284 00:09:10,710 --> 00:09:08,720 empowered and we were divided 285 00:09:12,150 --> 00:09:10,720 by a warlike event you know that's 286 00:09:12,630 --> 00:09:12,160 what's really interesting and you know 287 00:09:13,910 --> 00:09:12,640 because 288 00:09:16,230 --> 00:09:13,920 if you really want to keep somebody in 289 00:09:17,430 --> 00:09:16,240 office start a war you know trump could 290 00:09:19,030 --> 00:09:17,440 have probably done it like if he wanted 291 00:09:20,150 --> 00:09:19,040 to start a war with iran right now if he 292 00:09:20,790 --> 00:09:20,160 was that kind of guy he's not that kind 293 00:09:22,150 --> 00:09:20,800 of guy 294 00:09:24,550 --> 00:09:22,160 he probably could have been the big 295 00:09:25,670 --> 00:09:24,560 distraction to bring us all back 296 00:09:27,430 --> 00:09:25,680 together he could have stayed in 297 00:09:29,110 --> 00:09:27,440 by starting well i mean there was there 298 00:09:31,829 --> 00:09:29,120 was nothing unifying about 299 00:09:33,590 --> 00:09:31,839 about covet i mean it was dividing from 300 00:09:36,150 --> 00:09:33,600 from the get-go as far as 301 00:09:37,590 --> 00:09:36,160 where it came from you know i mean you 302 00:09:39,110 --> 00:09:37,600 know i started with conspiracy theories 303 00:09:41,590 --> 00:09:39,120 about covet itself 304 00:09:43,030 --> 00:09:41,600 and then as far as how to respond to it 305 00:09:44,870 --> 00:09:43,040 and so on and you almost 306 00:09:47,350 --> 00:09:44,880 seem to always have a left and a right 307 00:09:49,269 --> 00:09:47,360 view about how to respond to covid 308 00:09:52,150 --> 00:09:49,279 i think it kind of broke down to 309 00:09:54,790 --> 00:09:52,160 individual rights versus collective 310 00:09:56,870 --> 00:09:54,800 good so you had naturally had the right 311 00:09:58,790 --> 00:09:56,880 who's very into individual freedom being 312 00:10:01,350 --> 00:09:58,800 very suspect of the idea of 313 00:10:03,030 --> 00:10:01,360 lockdowns and on the left it's all into 314 00:10:05,430 --> 00:10:03,040 collectivism and everything being 315 00:10:06,790 --> 00:10:05,440 equal for everybody said no no everybody 316 00:10:08,230 --> 00:10:06,800 stay at home close on everything that 317 00:10:11,350 --> 00:10:08,240 way everything's equal 318 00:10:13,269 --> 00:10:11,360 and and from that point forward we've 319 00:10:14,470 --> 00:10:13,279 covet has further divided the country i 320 00:10:16,230 --> 00:10:14,480 think yeah 321 00:10:17,509 --> 00:10:16,240 exactly no and that's my point about the 322 00:10:20,030 --> 00:10:17,519 inversion it was 323 00:10:21,430 --> 00:10:20,040 it was a a great it was saying it was 324 00:10:23,269 --> 00:10:21,440 non-unifying 325 00:10:24,470 --> 00:10:23,279 but they got handed the only reason they 326 00:10:26,310 --> 00:10:24,480 won was coveted 327 00:10:27,670 --> 00:10:26,320 there was no way they were going to take 328 00:10:29,590 --> 00:10:27,680 this president down with his 329 00:10:31,430 --> 00:10:29,600 with his employment and stock market and 330 00:10:33,269 --> 00:10:31,440 economic numbers i mean there was no we 331 00:10:35,750 --> 00:10:33,279 were unstoppable 332 00:10:39,030 --> 00:10:35,760 so i you know i'm not i don't know you 333 00:10:41,030 --> 00:10:39,040 know i i i can't i cannot go 334 00:10:43,030 --> 00:10:41,040 i lo there's a rabbi rabbi finley that 335 00:10:45,030 --> 00:10:43,040 we see and i like what he says 336 00:10:46,550 --> 00:10:45,040 he said you can test it conspiracy by 337 00:10:50,310 --> 00:10:46,560 the fact that people start committing 338 00:10:51,910 --> 00:10:50,320 suicide because there is a moral center 339 00:10:53,430 --> 00:10:51,920 and we want to go down these shoot 340 00:10:55,190 --> 00:10:53,440 eventually people would pop up 341 00:10:56,710 --> 00:10:55,200 and kill themselves to cover things now 342 00:10:57,509 --> 00:10:56,720 interesting a couple suicides right 343 00:10:59,750 --> 00:10:57,519 after 344 00:11:00,870 --> 00:10:59,760 uh what happened in washington 345 00:11:01,509 --> 00:11:00,880 interesting right within the law 346 00:11:04,150 --> 00:11:01,519 enforcement 347 00:11:04,550 --> 00:11:04,160 a couple guys killed himself so but he's 348 00:11:07,269 --> 00:11:04,560 it was 349 00:11:08,230 --> 00:11:07,279 it's a good point like my uh i'm not are 350 00:11:10,710 --> 00:11:08,240 we on the air 351 00:11:12,069 --> 00:11:10,720 oh yeah yeah we're going really okay 352 00:11:14,630 --> 00:11:12,079 okay okay 353 00:11:16,069 --> 00:11:14,640 all right sorry sorry we we we just keep 354 00:11:16,870 --> 00:11:16,079 talking to my producer picks a beginning 355 00:11:18,870 --> 00:11:16,880 and an end so 356 00:11:20,310 --> 00:11:18,880 oh great great well then i won't name 357 00:11:21,750 --> 00:11:20,320 anybody that's what i want to say but i 358 00:11:24,790 --> 00:11:21,760 know certain people that are just 359 00:11:26,150 --> 00:11:24,800 running down this you know and the queue 360 00:11:27,350 --> 00:11:26,160 thing was interesting right because it 361 00:11:29,750 --> 00:11:27,360 was about 362 00:11:31,030 --> 00:11:29,760 trump brought up fake news and then from 363 00:11:33,269 --> 00:11:31,040 fake news we had 364 00:11:34,550 --> 00:11:33,279 you know definitely it became almost 365 00:11:35,910 --> 00:11:34,560 like an analysis 366 00:11:37,910 --> 00:11:35,920 game that a lot of people got involved 367 00:11:38,630 --> 00:11:37,920 in so i want to say you know good job 368 00:11:41,269 --> 00:11:38,640 america 369 00:11:42,310 --> 00:11:41,279 we're no longer uh we're no longer aware 370 00:11:44,630 --> 00:11:42,320 of where you know 371 00:11:45,750 --> 00:11:44,640 uh paraguay is i mean we were pretty 372 00:11:47,430 --> 00:11:45,760 unconscious people 373 00:11:49,350 --> 00:11:47,440 before fake news came along said 374 00:11:51,829 --> 00:11:49,360 americans need to think more deeply 375 00:11:52,949 --> 00:11:51,839 and now now we've gotten so deep into 376 00:11:54,710 --> 00:11:52,959 the wormhole 377 00:11:56,870 --> 00:11:54,720 that you know there is some danger to 378 00:11:58,710 --> 00:11:56,880 overthinking things so anyway more 379 00:12:00,710 --> 00:11:58,720 people would start killing themselves if 380 00:12:02,389 --> 00:12:00,720 big conspiracies actually happened 381 00:12:04,949 --> 00:12:02,399 and some are and some aren't but i you 382 00:12:06,629 --> 00:12:04,959 know i can't go into the one about 383 00:12:08,470 --> 00:12:06,639 being intentionally started that's such 384 00:12:11,110 --> 00:12:08,480 a deep and complicated 385 00:12:13,430 --> 00:12:11,120 premise i i don't i i just think it was 386 00:12:16,550 --> 00:12:13,440 a real aberration 387 00:12:19,110 --> 00:12:16,560 so now as we try to bridge the divide 388 00:12:22,150 --> 00:12:19,120 between the two sides and 389 00:12:22,470 --> 00:12:22,160 try to demonstrate that our side so to 390 00:12:24,629 --> 00:12:22,480 speak 391 00:12:25,750 --> 00:12:24,639 conservative side is is the voice of 392 00:12:29,030 --> 00:12:25,760 reason but 393 00:12:32,069 --> 00:12:29,040 you've got this capital break-in event 394 00:12:33,590 --> 00:12:32,079 that the left is now using to just throw 395 00:12:35,590 --> 00:12:33,600 everybody on the right under the bus 396 00:12:36,150 --> 00:12:35,600 that see we've been telling you from the 397 00:12:38,069 --> 00:12:36,160 beginning 398 00:12:40,389 --> 00:12:38,079 trump was dangerous his supporters are 399 00:12:43,190 --> 00:12:40,399 dangerous these white nationalists 400 00:12:43,590 --> 00:12:43,200 etc are dangerous and just casting the 401 00:12:46,870 --> 00:12:43,600 whole 402 00:12:48,870 --> 00:12:46,880 right aside so uh it's making the task 403 00:12:50,150 --> 00:12:48,880 even more difficult now to bridge the 404 00:12:52,310 --> 00:12:50,160 divide but 405 00:12:54,710 --> 00:12:52,320 you know i guess the first question is 406 00:12:56,870 --> 00:12:54,720 as somebody who is 407 00:12:57,990 --> 00:12:56,880 you know on the on the right you know 408 00:13:00,870 --> 00:12:58,000 what do you have to say 409 00:13:02,389 --> 00:13:00,880 about the capital break-in well i just 410 00:13:04,389 --> 00:13:02,399 did an article on newsmax it was about 411 00:13:05,509 --> 00:13:04,399 the three big reasons the one first all 412 00:13:07,750 --> 00:13:05,519 is that the rule of law 413 00:13:09,190 --> 00:13:07,760 exists anyway regardless of whether left 414 00:13:12,230 --> 00:13:09,200 or right or politicized 415 00:13:14,629 --> 00:13:12,240 there were 14 000 break in 14 000 416 00:13:16,949 --> 00:13:14,639 arrests during the 400 cities that were 417 00:13:18,790 --> 00:13:16,959 we had george floyd protests in you know 418 00:13:20,870 --> 00:13:18,800 on this one we've had like 80 so far 419 00:13:23,110 --> 00:13:20,880 80 a few more than 80s last couple days 420 00:13:23,750 --> 00:13:23,120 and five dead we had 19 dead on that 421 00:13:27,030 --> 00:13:23,760 night and 422 00:13:27,750 --> 00:13:27,040 on george floyd and 96 000 uh national 423 00:13:29,430 --> 00:13:27,760 guards 424 00:13:30,949 --> 00:13:29,440 deployed and two billion dollars worth 425 00:13:33,670 --> 00:13:30,959 of damage so i'm 426 00:13:33,990 --> 00:13:33,680 i'm not going to be gaslit on the fact 427 00:13:37,590 --> 00:13:34,000 that 428 00:13:40,710 --> 00:13:37,600 inaccurate so untrue 429 00:13:42,790 --> 00:13:40,720 i mean if you go to uh the g20 it was 430 00:13:44,389 --> 00:13:42,800 all leftist fascist destruction over 431 00:13:44,870 --> 00:13:44,399 there if you go to berkeley if you go to 432 00:13:46,710 --> 00:13:44,880 heart 433 00:13:48,150 --> 00:13:46,720 all america is known for leftist 434 00:13:49,590 --> 00:13:48,160 violence with an 435 00:13:51,829 --> 00:13:49,600 occasional aberration of right-wing 436 00:13:53,350 --> 00:13:51,839 violence and then also 437 00:13:55,030 --> 00:13:53,360 so that's the first contest is law and 438 00:13:56,230 --> 00:13:55,040 order exists outside of policy and it 439 00:13:57,910 --> 00:13:56,240 actually functioned the second thing 440 00:13:59,910 --> 00:13:57,920 that i said about the capital riots was 441 00:14:01,110 --> 00:13:59,920 is that trump's speeches on paper were 442 00:14:02,629 --> 00:14:01,120 fantastic 443 00:14:04,150 --> 00:14:02,639 it's just like listening to his russian 444 00:14:05,829 --> 00:14:04,160 call on paper it was 445 00:14:07,829 --> 00:14:05,839 it was actually right down the line he 446 00:14:10,470 --> 00:14:07,839 immediately retracted the third major 447 00:14:13,509 --> 00:14:10,480 point is that the norfolk virginia 448 00:14:15,590 --> 00:14:13,519 fbi said we have there 449 00:14:17,269 --> 00:14:15,600 are because of covet lockdowns they said 450 00:14:18,069 --> 00:14:17,279 we need to make congress pay people are 451 00:14:20,710 --> 00:14:18,079 angry 452 00:14:22,389 --> 00:14:20,720 why did george floyd blow up because 453 00:14:23,590 --> 00:14:22,399 people were angry about covet we've 454 00:14:25,189 --> 00:14:23,600 never been shut down 455 00:14:26,550 --> 00:14:25,199 we're still angry if anything we're 456 00:14:27,750 --> 00:14:26,560 angry as we're a lot of people are 457 00:14:30,790 --> 00:14:27,760 sliding into long-term 458 00:14:32,629 --> 00:14:30,800 devastation so that norfolk virginia fbi 459 00:14:35,829 --> 00:14:32,639 gave a warning that they were planning 460 00:14:38,710 --> 00:14:35,839 to bring a war to a riot to congress 461 00:14:40,230 --> 00:14:38,720 before trump incited so trump incited 462 00:14:41,509 --> 00:14:40,240 they said and that why the reason they 463 00:14:44,230 --> 00:14:41,519 impeached in eight hours 464 00:14:46,230 --> 00:14:44,240 but the truth was right is it was 465 00:14:48,470 --> 00:14:46,240 already in motion before he got there 466 00:14:49,350 --> 00:14:48,480 it was already multiple groups so we i 467 00:14:52,550 --> 00:14:49,360 mean you know 468 00:14:54,150 --> 00:14:52,560 but right wing groups uh 469 00:14:55,990 --> 00:14:54,160 no they were they're a mixture of 470 00:14:57,030 --> 00:14:56,000 multiple groups throughout i mean look 471 00:14:59,430 --> 00:14:57,040 at this guy jane uh 472 00:15:01,590 --> 00:14:59,440 john sullivan he's definitely not he's 473 00:15:03,350 --> 00:15:01,600 he's definitely not to the right 474 00:15:04,790 --> 00:15:03,360 the guy that was filming it coordinating 475 00:15:07,910 --> 00:15:04,800 it sitting in the corner 476 00:15:09,910 --> 00:15:07,920 when uh the young uh um 477 00:15:11,350 --> 00:15:09,920 babbitt what's her name got shot that 478 00:15:13,030 --> 00:15:11,360 guy was definitively aligned with the 479 00:15:14,389 --> 00:15:13,040 left there's a lot of leftist 480 00:15:16,230 --> 00:15:14,399 people there and they agitated they 481 00:15:19,350 --> 00:15:16,240 grabbed in some other people you know 482 00:15:21,189 --> 00:15:19,360 so i i'm not i'm not buying it i'm not 483 00:15:22,629 --> 00:15:21,199 buying it i think it was a big setup and 484 00:15:24,230 --> 00:15:22,639 they they really want to destroy the 485 00:15:25,509 --> 00:15:24,240 trump legacy i look the way 486 00:15:27,189 --> 00:15:25,519 we did a show last night we said the 487 00:15:28,790 --> 00:15:27,199 reason that trump got impeached twice is 488 00:15:29,670 --> 00:15:28,800 because that's how dangerous he is to 489 00:15:31,269 --> 00:15:29,680 the system 490 00:15:32,949 --> 00:15:31,279 that exists that he's been draining the 491 00:15:35,030 --> 00:15:32,959 swamp for a long time that he's that 492 00:15:36,710 --> 00:15:35,040 kind of free speech advocate i'm i'm not 493 00:15:39,990 --> 00:15:36,720 going to go to sleep on this 494 00:15:42,949 --> 00:15:40,000 yeah but i mean bottom line the right 495 00:15:44,710 --> 00:15:42,959 you know republicans etc condemned the 496 00:15:45,990 --> 00:15:44,720 break-in condemned the violence right 497 00:15:46,629 --> 00:15:46,000 away which is something that you didn't 498 00:15:47,910 --> 00:15:46,639 say 499 00:15:49,829 --> 00:15:47,920 yeah right which is something you didn't 500 00:15:50,389 --> 00:15:49,839 see from the left but i mean it does 501 00:15:53,030 --> 00:15:50,399 appear 502 00:15:54,230 --> 00:15:53,040 that primarily this was maybe it was 503 00:15:55,910 --> 00:15:54,240 infiltrated a bit 504 00:15:58,550 --> 00:15:55,920 but you tell me if you feel differently 505 00:16:01,350 --> 00:15:58,560 it does appear that it was primarily 506 00:16:01,829 --> 00:16:01,360 these hardcore right-wing groups that 507 00:16:03,670 --> 00:16:01,839 were 508 00:16:05,350 --> 00:16:03,680 behind it basically under the 509 00:16:06,150 --> 00:16:05,360 presumption that this is a stolen 510 00:16:08,710 --> 00:16:06,160 election 511 00:16:09,910 --> 00:16:08,720 and we need to go in and take it back 512 00:16:11,910 --> 00:16:09,920 this is our 513 00:16:13,110 --> 00:16:11,920 moment you know the same reason why we 514 00:16:15,189 --> 00:16:13,120 have the second amendment 515 00:16:16,550 --> 00:16:15,199 which allows us to carry guns in case we 516 00:16:18,710 --> 00:16:16,560 are faced with a tyrannical 517 00:16:19,670 --> 00:16:18,720 government i think this was a call to 518 00:16:22,230 --> 00:16:19,680 action 519 00:16:22,870 --> 00:16:22,240 by some of these extreme groups that 520 00:16:24,790 --> 00:16:22,880 thought this 521 00:16:25,990 --> 00:16:24,800 is our moment this is the time we need 522 00:16:28,150 --> 00:16:26,000 to rise up 523 00:16:29,590 --> 00:16:28,160 and take our country back isn't that 524 00:16:31,509 --> 00:16:29,600 what you saw 525 00:16:34,150 --> 00:16:31,519 uh i think there was a corner 526 00:16:35,509 --> 00:16:34,160 coordinated agitation which recruited a 527 00:16:37,269 --> 00:16:35,519 lot of people on the right that were in 528 00:16:39,110 --> 00:16:37,279 that position but i'd actually go back 529 00:16:40,230 --> 00:16:39,120 and place the blame on the media for one 530 00:16:44,150 --> 00:16:40,240 thing they did 531 00:16:46,230 --> 00:16:44,160 look man we we came out and trump 532 00:16:47,749 --> 00:16:46,240 challenged election integrity which is 533 00:16:49,269 --> 00:16:47,759 always election fraud it's just a matter 534 00:16:50,550 --> 00:16:49,279 of whether it throws off the electoral 535 00:16:51,829 --> 00:16:50,560 college at the end of the day that's why 536 00:16:52,310 --> 00:16:51,839 we have electoral colleges they're 537 00:16:53,590 --> 00:16:52,320 trying to 538 00:16:55,110 --> 00:16:53,600 eliminate right now and go to the 539 00:16:56,069 --> 00:16:55,120 popular vote which is which is 540 00:16:58,310 --> 00:16:56,079 absolutely crazy 541 00:17:00,150 --> 00:16:58,320 but what do they say they said false 542 00:17:01,910 --> 00:17:00,160 baseless and conspiracy based 543 00:17:04,549 --> 00:17:01,920 instead of alleged claims from the very 544 00:17:06,309 --> 00:17:04,559 beginning that pissed me off 545 00:17:08,789 --> 00:17:06,319 you know i know enough about the law i 546 00:17:10,470 --> 00:17:08,799 know enough about due process to 547 00:17:13,270 --> 00:17:10,480 somebody just the media can't claim 548 00:17:15,350 --> 00:17:13,280 eminent domain over my individual rights 549 00:17:16,710 --> 00:17:15,360 by saying false baseless conspiracy 550 00:17:18,949 --> 00:17:16,720 based that would be in court that would 551 00:17:21,029 --> 00:17:18,959 be hey conjecture presumption 552 00:17:22,150 --> 00:17:21,039 but you know well then they do by the 553 00:17:23,590 --> 00:17:22,160 way they do the same thing about the 554 00:17:26,789 --> 00:17:23,600 break-in it's basically the 555 00:17:27,669 --> 00:17:26,799 the trump incited break-in you know that 556 00:17:29,110 --> 00:17:27,679 i mean they flat out 557 00:17:30,710 --> 00:17:29,120 i forget some of the quotes it was on 60 558 00:17:32,070 --> 00:17:30,720 minutes piece from from last night where 559 00:17:35,190 --> 00:17:32,080 they just flat out say that 560 00:17:36,470 --> 00:17:35,200 trump directed the the the capital 561 00:17:38,870 --> 00:17:36,480 insurrection 562 00:17:40,630 --> 00:17:38,880 and and you're just supposed to buy it 563 00:17:41,430 --> 00:17:40,640 it's unbelievable what they're getting 564 00:17:43,830 --> 00:17:41,440 away with 565 00:17:44,789 --> 00:17:43,840 in what is supposed to be unbiased 566 00:17:46,789 --> 00:17:44,799 reporting 567 00:17:47,830 --> 00:17:46,799 in the little stuff that they slip in so 568 00:17:50,310 --> 00:17:47,840 you're right so 569 00:17:51,990 --> 00:17:50,320 yeah i think that this but you you could 570 00:17:52,710 --> 00:17:52,000 all chalk it up just to the polarized 571 00:17:54,230 --> 00:17:52,720 environment 572 00:17:56,070 --> 00:17:54,240 that we're in where basically people are 573 00:17:57,029 --> 00:17:56,080 getting two totally different sets of 574 00:18:00,390 --> 00:17:57,039 facts 575 00:18:01,990 --> 00:18:00,400 and yeah it's super frustrating to 576 00:18:03,270 --> 00:18:02,000 say that if you mention anything about 577 00:18:04,070 --> 00:18:03,280 election fraud you're going to be taken 578 00:18:06,390 --> 00:18:04,080 down from 579 00:18:07,909 --> 00:18:06,400 youtube and it's super frustrating that 580 00:18:10,070 --> 00:18:07,919 you know from day one 581 00:18:12,390 --> 00:18:10,080 they were you know not accepting of the 582 00:18:15,190 --> 00:18:12,400 trump election so 583 00:18:16,230 --> 00:18:15,200 that created this fevered environment 584 00:18:18,789 --> 00:18:16,240 for sure 585 00:18:19,669 --> 00:18:18,799 but at the end of the day i mean there's 586 00:18:22,549 --> 00:18:19,679 no excuse 587 00:18:23,029 --> 00:18:22,559 for what happened right absolutely 588 00:18:25,110 --> 00:18:23,039 absolutely 589 00:18:27,190 --> 00:18:25,120 dewey is so funny we're saying suddenly 590 00:18:29,190 --> 00:18:27,200 democrats are republicans 591 00:18:30,549 --> 00:18:29,200 on law and order you know suddenly 592 00:18:31,830 --> 00:18:30,559 they're like build a wall around the 593 00:18:32,230 --> 00:18:31,840 white house to protect what we're doing 594 00:18:33,909 --> 00:18:32,240 you know 595 00:18:36,230 --> 00:18:33,919 it's like suddenly they're yeah i love 596 00:18:37,190 --> 00:18:36,240 it the shoe is on the other foot in so 597 00:18:41,270 --> 00:18:37,200 many respects 598 00:18:43,270 --> 00:18:41,280 on this um but you know as we look at 599 00:18:44,549 --> 00:18:43,280 as as we look at the the violence that 600 00:18:46,870 --> 00:18:44,559 came over the summer as a result of 601 00:18:48,630 --> 00:18:46,880 george floyd and so on and the left 602 00:18:51,350 --> 00:18:48,640 violence you know they're they're going 603 00:18:54,470 --> 00:18:51,360 to say that well that was a very small 604 00:18:57,029 --> 00:18:54,480 radicalized minority of the left just 605 00:19:00,549 --> 00:18:57,039 like you have a small radicalized 606 00:19:02,549 --> 00:19:00,559 uh uh group on your side so is that 607 00:19:04,230 --> 00:19:02,559 fair yeah it's fair i mean look i was 608 00:19:08,310 --> 00:19:04,240 looking at wikipedia last night just in 609 00:19:11,270 --> 00:19:08,320 general and they they said that 96.43 610 00:19:13,110 --> 00:19:11,280 of george floyd protests were peaceful i 611 00:19:15,830 --> 00:19:13,120 was like oh that's interesting statistic 612 00:19:16,549 --> 00:19:15,840 but what matters is how radicalized and 613 00:19:20,310 --> 00:19:16,559 organized 614 00:19:22,070 --> 00:19:20,320 was that you know uh 3.6 615 00:19:24,310 --> 00:19:22,080 and i think what we had was some we had 616 00:19:26,870 --> 00:19:24,320 some extreme olinsky eye 617 00:19:28,549 --> 00:19:26,880 weather underground agitation that was 618 00:19:30,390 --> 00:19:28,559 never let a crisis go to waste is 619 00:19:32,470 --> 00:19:30,400 absolutely a key element 620 00:19:34,230 --> 00:19:32,480 of the terms of socialism and communism 621 00:19:35,990 --> 00:19:34,240 and the progressive hard left 622 00:19:38,070 --> 00:19:36,000 which you know in look in the 70s and 623 00:19:39,029 --> 00:19:38,080 80s and 90s we found documents saying 624 00:19:42,230 --> 00:19:39,039 hey lie 625 00:19:45,110 --> 00:19:42,240 agitate duplicity organize 626 00:19:46,310 --> 00:19:45,120 flip and turn that's not hyperbole the 627 00:19:47,590 --> 00:19:46,320 people that are organized with the 628 00:19:49,909 --> 00:19:47,600 radical left 629 00:19:52,390 --> 00:19:49,919 know the handbook inside and out i mean 630 00:19:54,390 --> 00:19:52,400 our last president was a devotee 631 00:19:55,909 --> 00:19:54,400 of these of these actual theories in 632 00:19:57,990 --> 00:19:55,919 order to get to 633 00:19:59,110 --> 00:19:58,000 a machiavellian outcome no matter what 634 00:20:00,470 --> 00:19:59,120 he had to do 635 00:20:02,470 --> 00:20:00,480 so that's really happening i mean if you 636 00:20:04,390 --> 00:20:02,480 read the new organized document i was 637 00:20:07,110 --> 00:20:04,400 telling you from aoc in the squad and 638 00:20:09,029 --> 00:20:07,120 blm it's basically saying let's defund 639 00:20:11,430 --> 00:20:09,039 the police and let's fund education 640 00:20:12,470 --> 00:20:11,440 16 million people should be given jobs 641 00:20:15,270 --> 00:20:12,480 immediately 642 00:20:16,950 --> 00:20:15,280 uh reparations should continue we should 643 00:20:19,029 --> 00:20:16,960 privatize companies that are taking 644 00:20:22,390 --> 00:20:19,039 assistance during this 645 00:20:25,110 --> 00:20:22,400 during covid it is a socialist manifesto 646 00:20:26,789 --> 00:20:25,120 putting a bar for how far biden can go 647 00:20:28,710 --> 00:20:26,799 it's already on the table so 648 00:20:31,350 --> 00:20:28,720 if that's real then i would say the 649 00:20:32,789 --> 00:20:31,360 organizing elements of one 650 00:20:34,630 --> 00:20:32,799 what was it i mean two million people 651 00:20:35,190 --> 00:20:34,640 went to washington and we had you know a 652 00:20:38,070 --> 00:20:35,200 handful 653 00:20:39,510 --> 00:20:38,080 200 probably at the head acting up but i 654 00:20:40,789 --> 00:20:39,520 gotta challenge this a little bit james 655 00:20:42,950 --> 00:20:40,799 because i've been doing a lot of 656 00:20:43,830 --> 00:20:42,960 watching of the videos and looking on on 657 00:20:47,830 --> 00:20:43,840 judicial 658 00:20:49,110 --> 00:20:47,840 leftists in this group so it looked 659 00:20:49,990 --> 00:20:49,120 pretty coordinated to me and i think 660 00:20:52,789 --> 00:20:50,000 they grabbed 661 00:20:54,070 --> 00:20:52,799 the opportunity well i certainly say 662 00:20:55,350 --> 00:20:54,080 that's one of the reasons why it's 663 00:20:59,190 --> 00:20:55,360 absolutely absurd 664 00:21:01,029 --> 00:20:59,200 to impeach so quickly 665 00:21:02,710 --> 00:21:01,039 you know not only does what trump said 666 00:21:03,669 --> 00:21:02,720 not rise to the standard of inciting 667 00:21:06,549 --> 00:21:03,679 violence under the 668 00:21:07,029 --> 00:21:06,559 criminal code but there hasn't been the 669 00:21:14,230 --> 00:21:07,039 most 670 00:21:15,430 --> 00:21:14,240 as to who was behind this how it all 671 00:21:18,630 --> 00:21:15,440 happened it's like 672 00:21:20,230 --> 00:21:18,640 it happened boom impeach i mean if 673 00:21:23,110 --> 00:21:20,240 hypothetically 674 00:21:24,390 --> 00:21:23,120 this was something that was uh planned 675 00:21:26,549 --> 00:21:24,400 by a leftist group 676 00:21:28,070 --> 00:21:26,559 basically to make trump look bad then 677 00:21:29,029 --> 00:21:28,080 does he deserve to be in peace if that's 678 00:21:32,549 --> 00:21:29,039 the case 679 00:21:35,590 --> 00:21:32,559 obviously not yeah i mean i i think 680 00:21:38,710 --> 00:21:35,600 graham is tapping into to schumer 681 00:21:40,789 --> 00:21:38,720 and saying let's stay in rationality 682 00:21:42,149 --> 00:21:40,799 let's lead forward i think if they're 683 00:21:44,230 --> 00:21:42,159 going to take control 684 00:21:45,909 --> 00:21:44,240 they're taking control of the office uh 685 00:21:48,630 --> 00:21:45,919 then i and with 25 000 686 00:21:50,149 --> 00:21:48,640 troops there um i think they're trying 687 00:21:50,870 --> 00:21:50,159 to back off this and focus on their 688 00:21:52,230 --> 00:21:50,880 agenda 689 00:21:53,750 --> 00:21:52,240 hopefully there's enough rationalists 690 00:21:54,789 --> 00:21:53,760 out there that you know they don't have 691 00:21:55,909 --> 00:21:54,799 to follow through this and 692 00:21:57,430 --> 00:21:55,919 we don't even know the legality if you 693 00:21:59,270 --> 00:21:57,440 can impeach a president after office 694 00:22:01,590 --> 00:21:59,280 anyway 695 00:22:02,390 --> 00:22:01,600 so go into your your book a couple 696 00:22:04,789 --> 00:22:02,400 things i want to 697 00:22:06,950 --> 00:22:04,799 point out is that you know it seems you 698 00:22:09,590 --> 00:22:06,960 know you had your own conversion 699 00:22:10,630 --> 00:22:09,600 um you make a note in there as far as 700 00:22:12,470 --> 00:22:10,640 kind of bridging the divide 701 00:22:13,669 --> 00:22:12,480 how to change hearts and minds or at 702 00:22:15,270 --> 00:22:13,679 worst preserve 703 00:22:17,669 --> 00:22:15,280 a few more mutually respectful 704 00:22:21,350 --> 00:22:17,679 relationships with more ease 705 00:22:22,630 --> 00:22:21,360 clarity and dignity so what is it that 706 00:22:24,630 --> 00:22:22,640 you would like to see 707 00:22:26,070 --> 00:22:24,640 as far as the discourse in america that 708 00:22:29,029 --> 00:22:26,080 you think could help 709 00:22:29,350 --> 00:22:29,039 bring us back together it's funny 710 00:22:30,630 --> 00:22:29,360 because 711 00:22:32,470 --> 00:22:30,640 you know right at thanksgiving things 712 00:22:33,669 --> 00:22:32,480 heated up sean spicer had had me on his 713 00:22:35,510 --> 00:22:33,679 show on newsmax 714 00:22:38,710 --> 00:22:35,520 and i said well i go i'm reversing my 715 00:22:40,390 --> 00:22:38,720 position the middle is dead 716 00:22:42,230 --> 00:22:40,400 the aspirations of our book are on hold 717 00:22:43,590 --> 00:22:42,240 till after january 20th 718 00:22:45,190 --> 00:22:43,600 so the first thing i have to say is you 719 00:22:47,029 --> 00:22:45,200 have to acknowledge reality right now 720 00:22:48,549 --> 00:22:47,039 you can't talk to the unconverted 721 00:22:50,470 --> 00:22:48,559 uh they're saying you know parlor was 722 00:22:51,990 --> 00:22:50,480 screaming into an echo chamber i'm like 723 00:22:52,950 --> 00:22:52,000 oh that's okay if the echo chamber is 724 00:22:54,470 --> 00:22:52,960 getting bigger 725 00:22:55,830 --> 00:22:54,480 and people are getting clearer you know 726 00:22:57,350 --> 00:22:55,840 because they didn't tie any of the 727 00:22:58,470 --> 00:22:57,360 violence that was projected back in the 728 00:22:59,590 --> 00:22:58,480 parlor on that by the way it was 729 00:23:02,950 --> 00:22:59,600 organized on facebook 730 00:23:05,190 --> 00:23:02,960 funny enough um what would i like to see 731 00:23:06,870 --> 00:23:05,200 you know uh i would like to see the 732 00:23:08,149 --> 00:23:06,880 following being the fact my best friend 733 00:23:10,230 --> 00:23:08,159 is a democratic 734 00:23:11,830 --> 00:23:10,240 socialist bernie kratt who's uh one of 735 00:23:12,950 --> 00:23:11,840 the delegates here and we have wonderful 736 00:23:15,350 --> 00:23:12,960 conversations 737 00:23:16,950 --> 00:23:15,360 i'd like to see people uh nestle into 738 00:23:18,710 --> 00:23:16,960 gratitude first i think that's a big 739 00:23:19,510 --> 00:23:18,720 perspective if you can get to gratitude 740 00:23:20,710 --> 00:23:19,520 in history 741 00:23:22,470 --> 00:23:20,720 like when you're connecting with 742 00:23:23,190 --> 00:23:22,480 somebody you have to say do you 743 00:23:25,830 --> 00:23:23,200 appreciate 744 00:23:27,350 --> 00:23:25,840 the life that you have the justice 745 00:23:28,870 --> 00:23:27,360 system that you have that supports the 746 00:23:31,430 --> 00:23:28,880 free markets to allow us 747 00:23:33,350 --> 00:23:31,440 this amount of prosperity here do you 748 00:23:35,029 --> 00:23:33,360 appreciate the free speech that you can 749 00:23:36,070 --> 00:23:35,039 actually have hate speech and even 750 00:23:38,549 --> 00:23:36,080 challenge censorship 751 00:23:40,789 --> 00:23:38,559 do you appreciate the dominant 752 00:23:42,390 --> 00:23:40,799 geographical superiority that america 753 00:23:43,990 --> 00:23:42,400 has just by the nature of where we're 754 00:23:46,230 --> 00:23:44,000 located in relationship to the world 755 00:23:48,630 --> 00:23:46,240 and how strong our military is 13 times 756 00:23:51,510 --> 00:23:48,640 long larger than people what that costs 757 00:23:51,909 --> 00:23:51,520 so if somebody's somebody knows enough 758 00:23:54,149 --> 00:23:51,919 to 759 00:23:55,669 --> 00:23:54,159 be in some sense of gratitude there's a 760 00:23:57,190 --> 00:23:55,679 context that's my big 761 00:23:59,110 --> 00:23:57,200 deal you know i throw people out they 762 00:24:00,390 --> 00:23:59,120 just hate america i'm not here i'm not 763 00:24:02,390 --> 00:24:00,400 you know they i called the years of 764 00:24:03,669 --> 00:24:02,400 obama the amerishame years 765 00:24:05,909 --> 00:24:03,679 because whenever you would speak at the 766 00:24:08,470 --> 00:24:05,919 u.n or this is definitely part of 767 00:24:09,909 --> 00:24:08,480 writing this book he would just destroy 768 00:24:11,830 --> 00:24:09,919 every fundamental thing that we had as 769 00:24:12,789 --> 00:24:11,840 proud and trump would say make america 770 00:24:14,789 --> 00:24:12,799 great again 771 00:24:16,390 --> 00:24:14,799 so that challenged a lot of people so if 772 00:24:19,190 --> 00:24:16,400 somebody has enough 773 00:24:21,029 --> 00:24:19,200 self-awareness to to be aware how free 774 00:24:22,470 --> 00:24:21,039 we are then there's a context to happen 775 00:24:24,070 --> 00:24:22,480 so that's the first thing i'd like to 776 00:24:26,070 --> 00:24:24,080 to nail down is identifying that 777 00:24:28,310 --> 00:24:26,080 gratitude and the second is are they 778 00:24:30,390 --> 00:24:28,320 connected outside of emotion 779 00:24:31,510 --> 00:24:30,400 to having a discussion if they are then 780 00:24:34,149 --> 00:24:31,520 you know engage 781 00:24:36,070 --> 00:24:34,159 i i want more people to to substantiate 782 00:24:37,190 --> 00:24:36,080 but the problem is i find this in 75 783 00:24:39,269 --> 00:24:37,200 percent of people left 784 00:24:40,310 --> 00:24:39,279 they jump to convict just like the 785 00:24:42,070 --> 00:24:40,320 impeachment 786 00:24:43,990 --> 00:24:42,080 before they even hear the rational 787 00:24:45,350 --> 00:24:44,000 discussion you know and i'm willing i'm 788 00:24:45,990 --> 00:24:45,360 like give me your point of view let's 789 00:24:47,269 --> 00:24:46,000 hear it and then 790 00:24:48,950 --> 00:24:47,279 you know if you know your faction you 791 00:24:49,750 --> 00:24:48,960 can debunk it and that i can tell you 792 00:24:51,350 --> 00:24:49,760 once again 793 00:24:53,590 --> 00:24:51,360 that's what our book is about is just 794 00:24:55,510 --> 00:24:53,600 making sure that you have 795 00:24:57,350 --> 00:24:55,520 the entire arsenal clear and i'll stand 796 00:24:59,669 --> 00:24:57,360 by this we we we took a 797 00:25:01,510 --> 00:24:59,679 we had the millennial institute we had 798 00:25:03,029 --> 00:25:01,520 another company i sent it out and i paid 799 00:25:05,909 --> 00:25:03,039 people to vet our logic 800 00:25:08,789 --> 00:25:05,919 our logic and our facts but how do you 801 00:25:11,909 --> 00:25:08,799 get someone who doesn't agree 802 00:25:12,549 --> 00:25:11,919 with that with that side to even read 803 00:25:15,830 --> 00:25:12,559 this book 804 00:25:19,110 --> 00:25:15,840 or is that not really the goal you know 805 00:25:20,310 --> 00:25:19,120 we marketing i chose this title because 806 00:25:21,909 --> 00:25:20,320 i was kind of discussed through the 807 00:25:24,549 --> 00:25:21,919 moral relatives of the show 808 00:25:25,750 --> 00:25:24,559 13 reasons why for you know i've young i 809 00:25:27,269 --> 00:25:25,760 have young 810 00:25:28,789 --> 00:25:27,279 daughters and i'm like uh okay let's 811 00:25:30,710 --> 00:25:28,799 glamorize suicide 812 00:25:32,390 --> 00:25:30,720 when kurt cobain did it in the united 813 00:25:33,830 --> 00:25:32,400 states of america suicide went up in a 814 00:25:34,870 --> 00:25:33,840 certain sect so we have to be really 815 00:25:37,350 --> 00:25:34,880 careful playing with that 816 00:25:37,990 --> 00:25:37,360 so i grabbed the title because i'm a 817 00:25:42,070 --> 00:25:38,000 moral 818 00:25:44,950 --> 00:25:42,080 traditionalist repressive kind of guy 819 00:25:46,310 --> 00:25:44,960 um i just lost my point of my thought 820 00:25:50,230 --> 00:25:46,320 what was the question again 821 00:25:51,830 --> 00:25:50,240 uh well getting was it your hope or 822 00:25:53,029 --> 00:25:51,840 intent that liberals would read this 823 00:25:54,950 --> 00:25:53,039 book thank you thank you that that's my 824 00:25:56,149 --> 00:25:54,960 point so i got into this book thinking 825 00:25:57,909 --> 00:25:56,159 i get a little emotional about it 826 00:25:59,350 --> 00:25:57,919 because my kids and what's going on in 827 00:26:02,390 --> 00:25:59,360 there in their culture 828 00:26:03,830 --> 00:26:02,400 um you know we wrote a bombastic title 829 00:26:05,190 --> 00:26:03,840 uh i you know we could have done 830 00:26:05,990 --> 00:26:05,200 something else and that's what that's 831 00:26:09,029 --> 00:26:06,000 the publishers 832 00:26:10,230 --> 00:26:09,039 charge chose um 833 00:26:11,990 --> 00:26:10,240 you know i would love to see 834 00:26:14,070 --> 00:26:12,000 independents read it and say you know 835 00:26:16,070 --> 00:26:14,080 look understand what your conservatives 836 00:26:17,750 --> 00:26:16,080 want to uh want you to understand about 837 00:26:19,350 --> 00:26:17,760 them so you could have a real discussion 838 00:26:20,870 --> 00:26:19,360 i mean i think more we wrote it 839 00:26:23,750 --> 00:26:20,880 kind of to influence the election and to 840 00:26:26,070 --> 00:26:23,760 validate what's working but chapter 13 841 00:26:27,750 --> 00:26:26,080 is trump but this is a timeless 842 00:26:29,110 --> 00:26:27,760 compendium of true facts that should 843 00:26:30,549 --> 00:26:29,120 sustain for years i look forward to 844 00:26:33,190 --> 00:26:30,559 rewriting it 845 00:26:34,470 --> 00:26:33,200 uh can i get it across to them i can get 846 00:26:37,430 --> 00:26:34,480 it to the middle 847 00:26:39,269 --> 00:26:37,440 um it's hard to get to the left james 848 00:26:40,630 --> 00:26:39,279 it's just hard to get to the left right 849 00:26:42,070 --> 00:26:40,640 now i i don't know 850 00:26:43,990 --> 00:26:42,080 that's the question and that's what our 851 00:26:46,549 --> 00:26:44,000 next book is going to be about is 852 00:26:48,470 --> 00:26:46,559 what is the you know how do you navigate 853 00:26:49,430 --> 00:26:48,480 the next four years if we go into some 854 00:26:51,510 --> 00:26:49,440 radical 855 00:26:53,510 --> 00:26:51,520 more socialistic left policies what can 856 00:26:55,269 --> 00:26:53,520 we do when the dems control 857 00:26:56,630 --> 00:26:55,279 every angle of government how do we do 858 00:26:58,549 --> 00:26:56,640 it with dignity 859 00:27:00,470 --> 00:26:58,559 so i have a friend who's in the process 860 00:27:01,669 --> 00:27:00,480 of starting a new media outlet right now 861 00:27:03,909 --> 00:27:01,679 and he's got some pretty good 862 00:27:05,029 --> 00:27:03,919 money behind it so it's it's got a 863 00:27:06,630 --> 00:27:05,039 legitimate chance hasn't 864 00:27:08,870 --> 00:27:06,640 launched yet and i won't mention the 865 00:27:12,230 --> 00:27:08,880 name but the idea 866 00:27:12,630 --> 00:27:12,240 is to get both sides talking to each 867 00:27:15,110 --> 00:27:12,640 other 868 00:27:16,630 --> 00:27:15,120 and not just talking about day-to-day 869 00:27:18,789 --> 00:27:16,640 news but basically you know the 870 00:27:21,029 --> 00:27:18,799 historical background of things and 871 00:27:22,149 --> 00:27:21,039 you know a deeper dive into the big 872 00:27:25,269 --> 00:27:22,159 controversial 873 00:27:27,350 --> 00:27:25,279 subjects but the whole concept is 874 00:27:29,510 --> 00:27:27,360 i don't you know he they would measure 875 00:27:30,389 --> 00:27:29,520 success by getting people on both sides 876 00:27:34,470 --> 00:27:30,399 coming to this 877 00:27:36,389 --> 00:27:34,480 media outlet do you think in today's 878 00:27:38,470 --> 00:27:36,399 environment that that has any chance of 879 00:27:40,630 --> 00:27:38,480 success 880 00:27:42,230 --> 00:27:40,640 it's an interesting question yeah i mean 881 00:27:45,350 --> 00:27:42,240 one of it just to finish 882 00:27:47,669 --> 00:27:45,360 one of his premises is that you know 883 00:27:49,830 --> 00:27:47,679 people agree when it comes right down to 884 00:27:52,389 --> 00:27:49,840 it on more things that they disagree 885 00:27:54,310 --> 00:27:52,399 about so we you know we're the media 886 00:27:56,149 --> 00:27:54,320 sticking us in these separate camps 887 00:27:57,830 --> 00:27:56,159 but if we really sat down and talked and 888 00:27:58,789 --> 00:27:57,840 really to talk things through there 889 00:28:00,950 --> 00:27:58,799 would be more agreement than 890 00:28:02,389 --> 00:28:00,960 disagreement 891 00:28:04,789 --> 00:28:02,399 you know i mean i appreciate it on a 892 00:28:06,230 --> 00:28:04,799 media level uh as far as 893 00:28:07,830 --> 00:28:06,240 you know getting back to some neutrality 894 00:28:09,669 --> 00:28:07,840 and media that'd be great i think that 895 00:28:11,029 --> 00:28:09,679 could succeed a right left and center 896 00:28:13,110 --> 00:28:11,039 i've always talked about that it'd be 897 00:28:13,430 --> 00:28:13,120 great to have the news from two views 898 00:28:15,190 --> 00:28:13,440 right 899 00:28:17,110 --> 00:28:15,200 and just have somebody say the news 900 00:28:17,990 --> 00:28:17,120 today they're not like and we see it as 901 00:28:20,870 --> 00:28:18,000 you know and 902 00:28:22,630 --> 00:28:20,880 moving on you know uh our interpreter 903 00:28:23,510 --> 00:28:22,640 will interpret i think that's a great 904 00:28:27,190 --> 00:28:23,520 concept 905 00:28:27,990 --> 00:28:27,200 um i miss uh the neutrality of news and 906 00:28:29,430 --> 00:28:28,000 i really 907 00:28:31,269 --> 00:28:29,440 tried to look for it i read across the 908 00:28:32,870 --> 00:28:31,279 spectrum and unfortunately it takes up a 909 00:28:34,950 --> 00:28:32,880 lot of your time i mean you know and you 910 00:28:35,830 --> 00:28:34,960 dynamia in greek philosophy of full 911 00:28:37,909 --> 00:28:35,840 prospering 912 00:28:39,350 --> 00:28:37,919 we've got too much energy in politics as 913 00:28:40,149 --> 00:28:39,360 my dad said one of the reasons i wrote 914 00:28:42,470 --> 00:28:40,159 the book is 915 00:28:43,990 --> 00:28:42,480 if if the government's working well you 916 00:28:45,190 --> 00:28:44,000 shouldn't hear about it that much that's 917 00:28:46,310 --> 00:28:45,200 what he said i was like you should be 918 00:28:47,510 --> 00:28:46,320 back in the background while you're 919 00:28:48,950 --> 00:28:47,520 living your life it's not in the 920 00:28:51,590 --> 00:28:48,960 background anymore 921 00:28:53,190 --> 00:28:51,600 yeah well it's become an inexpensive 922 00:28:55,750 --> 00:28:53,200 form of entertainment 923 00:28:58,710 --> 00:28:55,760 you know i mean these news channels fox 924 00:28:59,510 --> 00:28:58,720 cnn msnbc i mean they're doing extremely 925 00:29:01,430 --> 00:28:59,520 well 926 00:29:03,110 --> 00:29:01,440 and when you think about their cost 927 00:29:04,549 --> 00:29:03,120 their cost is no you and i were talking 928 00:29:05,909 --> 00:29:04,559 at the outset about how 929 00:29:07,590 --> 00:29:05,919 you know they don't pay anything for 930 00:29:09,190 --> 00:29:07,600 commentary and so on so 931 00:29:11,430 --> 00:29:09,200 they've got a handful of people they got 932 00:29:12,549 --> 00:29:11,440 to pay a good chunk of money to 933 00:29:14,310 --> 00:29:12,559 uh but they don't have foreign 934 00:29:15,669 --> 00:29:14,320 correspondents you know traipsing around 935 00:29:17,990 --> 00:29:15,679 the middle east to pay for 936 00:29:19,350 --> 00:29:18,000 they've got talking heads uh not even 937 00:29:21,430 --> 00:29:19,360 sitting in a studio anymore 938 00:29:23,110 --> 00:29:21,440 because of covid they're all they're all 939 00:29:28,149 --> 00:29:23,120 on zoom sitting at home 940 00:29:30,470 --> 00:29:28,159 so it's very cheap and and people watch 941 00:29:31,510 --> 00:29:30,480 yeah no they do they definitely do but i 942 00:29:32,710 --> 00:29:31,520 want to go back to your question i was 943 00:29:33,510 --> 00:29:32,720 just thinking about the essence that 944 00:29:35,029 --> 00:29:33,520 look 945 00:29:36,630 --> 00:29:35,039 i need people to know that the 946 00:29:39,029 --> 00:29:36,640 government programs fail 947 00:29:40,630 --> 00:29:39,039 big government fails they're you know 948 00:29:42,389 --> 00:29:40,640 they're they're they 949 00:29:44,070 --> 00:29:42,399 they've been countless interventionists 950 00:29:45,669 --> 00:29:44,080 catastrophic government mistakes that 951 00:29:46,950 --> 00:29:45,679 have destroyed lives and spread misery 952 00:29:48,950 --> 00:29:46,960 in the united states of america 953 00:29:50,470 --> 00:29:48,960 i need people that i talk to to 954 00:29:52,549 --> 00:29:50,480 understand the same principles 955 00:29:53,990 --> 00:29:52,559 i'm not going to sit down and i mean big 956 00:29:55,909 --> 00:29:54,000 government exists big free markets 957 00:29:58,710 --> 00:29:55,919 exist but everything that we do go back 958 00:30:01,549 --> 00:29:58,720 to fdr's great depression 959 00:30:02,870 --> 00:30:01,559 we struck 75 percent of his stuff uh 960 00:30:04,950 --> 00:30:02,880 unconstitutional 961 00:30:05,909 --> 00:30:04,960 uh only the war pulled us out of there 962 00:30:08,149 --> 00:30:05,919 72 percent 963 00:30:09,590 --> 00:30:08,159 illegitimacy rates came when we put in 964 00:30:11,830 --> 00:30:09,600 the war in poverty 965 00:30:13,350 --> 00:30:11,840 the trying to make housing fair fair 966 00:30:16,870 --> 00:30:13,360 destroyed our economy 967 00:30:18,950 --> 00:30:16,880 solyndra failed um obama said you know 968 00:30:19,590 --> 00:30:18,960 shovel ready wasn't as shovel ready as 969 00:30:22,710 --> 00:30:19,600 we thought 970 00:30:24,310 --> 00:30:22,720 there's there's just right now 971 00:30:26,310 --> 00:30:24,320 i i appreciate that people want to get 972 00:30:27,669 --> 00:30:26,320 to the middle but big government doesn't 973 00:30:29,029 --> 00:30:27,679 work 974 00:30:30,630 --> 00:30:29,039 but what do you what do you think about 975 00:30:31,909 --> 00:30:30,640 california's 100 billion dollar bullet 976 00:30:35,029 --> 00:30:31,919 train isn't that a 977 00:30:36,789 --> 00:30:35,039 example of uh kyle comfort look man 978 00:30:38,149 --> 00:30:36,799 i surf i just want to go on the record 979 00:30:39,669 --> 00:30:38,159 the only reason i'm in california is 980 00:30:41,669 --> 00:30:39,679 because i've been here for so long i was 981 00:30:42,549 --> 00:30:41,679 a young actor here back in the 80s with 982 00:30:44,070 --> 00:30:42,559 her 90s 983 00:30:46,070 --> 00:30:44,080 and i'm here because i have a great 984 00:30:47,830 --> 00:30:46,080 community and i love the water 985 00:30:49,990 --> 00:30:47,840 but i don't even want to pay my taxes 986 00:30:51,510 --> 00:30:50,000 man i mean i i feel like i'm getting 987 00:30:53,990 --> 00:30:51,520 ripped off because they're mismanaged 988 00:30:56,789 --> 00:30:54,000 i'm surrounded by homeless in west l.a 989 00:30:58,470 --> 00:30:56,799 i'm surrounded by crime there is 990 00:30:59,830 --> 00:30:58,480 functionally there is a functional 991 00:31:02,149 --> 00:30:59,840 meltdown of our 992 00:31:03,669 --> 00:31:02,159 california management and i all i see is 993 00:31:06,070 --> 00:31:03,679 garcetti and newsome just 994 00:31:08,549 --> 00:31:06,080 pandering to the presidency i don't see 995 00:31:11,029 --> 00:31:08,559 them concerned with the day-to-day uh 996 00:31:12,950 --> 00:31:11,039 solidity of our economy whatsoever no 997 00:31:14,870 --> 00:31:12,960 and they have a monopoly on power in 998 00:31:16,230 --> 00:31:14,880 california you know i don't know if 999 00:31:17,669 --> 00:31:16,240 all of our listeners know this because 1000 00:31:21,190 --> 00:31:17,679 they're across the country but you know 1001 00:31:24,070 --> 00:31:21,200 our legislature is 75 percent or more 1002 00:31:24,870 --> 00:31:24,080 uh democrats every single statewide seat 1003 00:31:28,230 --> 00:31:24,880 is held by 1004 00:31:29,990 --> 00:31:28,240 a democrat los angeles every i think 1005 00:31:31,430 --> 00:31:30,000 maybe there's one moderate or 1006 00:31:34,710 --> 00:31:31,440 conservative council 1007 00:31:37,430 --> 00:31:34,720 member out of 14 or 15. so it's just an 1008 00:31:37,750 --> 00:31:37,440 absolute total monopoly on power the 1009 00:31:39,269 --> 00:31:37,760 whole 1010 00:31:41,110 --> 00:31:39,279 idea that you know it's checks and 1011 00:31:43,190 --> 00:31:41,120 balances and you know think about 1012 00:31:44,789 --> 00:31:43,200 washington washington's constantly going 1013 00:31:46,470 --> 00:31:44,799 back and forth back and forth between 1014 00:31:50,230 --> 00:31:46,480 republicans holding democrats 1015 00:31:51,669 --> 00:31:50,240 california is long gone and um 1016 00:31:53,830 --> 00:31:51,679 you know i don't know how it reverses 1017 00:31:55,430 --> 00:31:53,840 itself i agree with you though it's it's 1018 00:31:58,630 --> 00:31:55,440 such a beautiful 1019 00:31:59,990 --> 00:31:58,640 place that they're gonna have to really 1020 00:32:02,630 --> 00:32:00,000 really screw it up even 1021 00:32:04,470 --> 00:32:02,640 more than they have to get me to leave 1022 00:32:05,750 --> 00:32:04,480 yeah i mean it's hard too right you get 1023 00:32:07,509 --> 00:32:05,760 to a certain age in your life you don't 1024 00:32:09,190 --> 00:32:07,519 want to reconstruct your whole 1025 00:32:11,509 --> 00:32:09,200 reconstruct your entire community based 1026 00:32:13,110 --> 00:32:11,519 on politics look i love politics 1027 00:32:15,029 --> 00:32:13,120 but politics are temporal i believe in 1028 00:32:16,710 --> 00:32:15,039 god i believe in individual liberty i 1029 00:32:17,509 --> 00:32:16,720 believe in nature i believe in my family 1030 00:32:19,190 --> 00:32:17,519 i believe in my 1031 00:32:20,950 --> 00:32:19,200 friends i'm serious man just build my 1032 00:32:23,430 --> 00:32:20,960 roads protect my country 1033 00:32:24,389 --> 00:32:23,440 you know uh keep a basic level of safety 1034 00:32:26,870 --> 00:32:24,399 in industry 1035 00:32:28,549 --> 00:32:26,880 break up big big big monopolies like 1036 00:32:31,190 --> 00:32:28,559 like like what's happening with uh 1037 00:32:31,590 --> 00:32:31,200 amazon and parlor and every everything 1038 00:32:33,029 --> 00:32:31,600 that's 1039 00:32:35,269 --> 00:32:33,039 happening with apple and google it's 1040 00:32:37,509 --> 00:32:35,279 getting out of control you know create 1041 00:32:39,750 --> 00:32:37,519 an element of safety so i can prosper 1042 00:32:41,430 --> 00:32:39,760 and california is complete it's the 1043 00:32:42,470 --> 00:32:41,440 field state it's like oh i feel we 1044 00:32:43,590 --> 00:32:42,480 should change something 1045 00:32:45,830 --> 00:32:43,600 and suddenly people are on the streets 1046 00:32:47,029 --> 00:32:45,840 we have a feeling you're like i don't 1047 00:32:48,070 --> 00:32:47,039 care about your feeling man i have a 1048 00:32:50,710 --> 00:32:48,080 constitution 1049 00:32:52,789 --> 00:32:50,720 this place is really distorted but i 1050 00:32:55,750 --> 00:32:52,799 have to say this i have to say this 1051 00:32:56,310 --> 00:32:55,760 liberals are beautiful now why because 1052 00:32:58,710 --> 00:32:56,320 they 1053 00:33:00,630 --> 00:32:58,720 let's let's let's have great education 1054 00:33:01,110 --> 00:33:00,640 let's save the planet let's make the 1055 00:33:04,470 --> 00:33:01,120 world 1056 00:33:05,190 --> 00:33:04,480 uh a p let's all have peace and uh you 1057 00:33:07,029 --> 00:33:05,200 know let's 1058 00:33:08,310 --> 00:33:07,039 make everything fair what they 1059 00:33:10,710 --> 00:33:08,320 essentially want 1060 00:33:11,990 --> 00:33:10,720 is great it's just conservatives are the 1061 00:33:14,070 --> 00:33:12,000 adults in the room 1062 00:33:15,190 --> 00:33:14,080 because we look at the the fiscal 1063 00:33:17,430 --> 00:33:15,200 realities and the 1064 00:33:18,950 --> 00:33:17,440 executionary realities of the world the 1065 00:33:21,590 --> 00:33:18,960 world is a broken 1066 00:33:23,029 --> 00:33:21,600 scary place with a lot of evil forces we 1067 00:33:24,710 --> 00:33:23,039 have a very lucky thing here we have to 1068 00:33:26,230 --> 00:33:24,720 preserve it so 1069 00:33:27,430 --> 00:33:26,240 you know it's hard to sit in that place 1070 00:33:29,269 --> 00:33:27,440 of rationalism i'm not going to leave 1071 00:33:32,789 --> 00:33:29,279 california because it's being overrun by 1072 00:33:34,549 --> 00:33:32,799 by you know this this socialism yeah 1073 00:33:36,789 --> 00:33:34,559 so um this is going to be our 1074 00:33:37,590 --> 00:33:36,799 inauguration episode so let's talk a 1075 00:33:41,110 --> 00:33:37,600 little bit about 1076 00:33:44,549 --> 00:33:41,120 the transition that's that's coming and 1077 00:33:46,549 --> 00:33:44,559 and how we we move potentially past 1078 00:33:48,310 --> 00:33:46,559 trump i want to get your thoughts um on 1079 00:33:49,269 --> 00:33:48,320 that but let's start with the fact that 1080 00:33:52,310 --> 00:33:49,279 trump is not 1081 00:33:53,509 --> 00:33:52,320 going to attend the inauguration what do 1082 00:33:55,909 --> 00:33:53,519 you think about that 1083 00:33:56,870 --> 00:33:55,919 well i mean he's like hey man fi i think 1084 00:33:59,590 --> 00:33:56,880 it's pretty easy if you 1085 00:34:00,149 --> 00:33:59,600 if you look at the fisa fbi d-class 1086 00:34:01,830 --> 00:34:00,159 which is 1087 00:34:03,669 --> 00:34:01,840 very interesting if people are paying 1088 00:34:05,590 --> 00:34:03,679 attention we covered that again and 1089 00:34:08,069 --> 00:34:05,600 again in our show bullet points 1090 00:34:09,270 --> 00:34:08,079 um look it said there was spying because 1091 00:34:10,310 --> 00:34:09,280 they tried to put somebody in the trump 1092 00:34:13,589 --> 00:34:10,320 administration 1093 00:34:15,589 --> 00:34:13,599 uh there were multiple reclassifications 1094 00:34:17,030 --> 00:34:15,599 where obama and biden hid the fact that 1095 00:34:19,669 --> 00:34:17,040 they had no evidence 1096 00:34:21,750 --> 00:34:19,679 they tried to do they tried to justify 1097 00:34:23,750 --> 00:34:21,760 the the steele dossier it was denied 1098 00:34:25,030 --> 00:34:23,760 i mean there are 17 gross errors they 1099 00:34:25,750 --> 00:34:25,040 said they didn't know the sources they 1100 00:34:28,950 --> 00:34:25,760 made it up 1101 00:34:31,190 --> 00:34:28,960 that d-class is serious so 1102 00:34:32,629 --> 00:34:31,200 trump's being asked hey this guy 1103 00:34:35,270 --> 00:34:32,639 attacked you the whole time 1104 00:34:35,750 --> 00:34:35,280 and ran a coup against your presidency 1105 00:34:37,270 --> 00:34:35,760 once you 1106 00:34:38,629 --> 00:34:37,280 show up and celebrate the fact that he's 1107 00:34:39,349 --> 00:34:38,639 in the office the guy was attacked the 1108 00:34:40,950 --> 00:34:39,359 whole time 1109 00:34:43,829 --> 00:34:40,960 if anything i think it's a statement of 1110 00:34:45,909 --> 00:34:43,839 dignity to not attend 1111 00:34:46,950 --> 00:34:45,919 so for a guy who wants to help heal the 1112 00:34:48,470 --> 00:34:46,960 divide 1113 00:34:50,790 --> 00:34:48,480 you think being the first president in 1114 00:34:53,190 --> 00:34:50,800 150 years to not 1115 00:34:54,310 --> 00:34:53,200 attend the next guy's inauguration is 1116 00:34:56,149 --> 00:34:54,320 okay 1117 00:34:58,630 --> 00:34:56,159 well i mean that that's a great that's a 1118 00:34:59,990 --> 00:34:58,640 great that's the liberal trap 1119 00:35:01,190 --> 00:35:00,000 i get what you're saying i'm not saying 1120 00:35:02,870 --> 00:35:01,200 you're presenting it but that's the 1121 00:35:03,430 --> 00:35:02,880 liberal traps like hey there was some 1122 00:35:05,990 --> 00:35:03,440 real 1123 00:35:07,829 --> 00:35:06,000 bad action electoral college challenge 1124 00:35:11,510 --> 00:35:07,839 25th amendment challenge 1125 00:35:12,630 --> 00:35:11,520 uh impeachment twice uh the uh rush of 1126 00:35:14,069 --> 00:35:12,640 the mueller report 1127 00:35:16,550 --> 00:35:14,079 and then now the mall reports turn out 1128 00:35:18,230 --> 00:35:16,560 to be valid so look 1129 00:35:20,230 --> 00:35:18,240 it's hard i mean keep your enemies close 1130 00:35:21,349 --> 00:35:20,240 and yeah your friends close your enemy's 1131 00:35:22,710 --> 00:35:21,359 closer but 1132 00:35:24,630 --> 00:35:22,720 you know i don't know what trump's 1133 00:35:25,990 --> 00:35:24,640 greater long-term plan is i mean maybe 1134 00:35:28,790 --> 00:35:26,000 he's trying to 1135 00:35:30,630 --> 00:35:28,800 be a voice for a new movement we'll find 1136 00:35:31,990 --> 00:35:30,640 out but uh i kind of i kind of 1137 00:35:33,270 --> 00:35:32,000 understand this because i understand 1138 00:35:35,430 --> 00:35:33,280 what he's gone through i think 1139 00:35:37,270 --> 00:35:35,440 the left has acted horribly and what 1140 00:35:39,349 --> 00:35:37,280 they want us to do is like ah it's okay 1141 00:35:41,430 --> 00:35:39,359 let's keep moving everything's fine now 1142 00:35:41,750 --> 00:35:41,440 yeah well you know look i i'm with you 1143 00:35:46,390 --> 00:35:41,760 on 1144 00:35:49,910 --> 00:35:46,400 both sides acknowledging 1145 00:35:51,750 --> 00:35:49,920 where they go wrong and so on and um 1146 00:35:53,030 --> 00:35:51,760 you know when it comes to trump's role 1147 00:35:55,109 --> 00:35:53,040 in all this 1148 00:35:56,390 --> 00:35:55,119 as i've already stated in no way do i 1149 00:35:59,589 --> 00:35:56,400 think that it merits 1150 00:36:01,510 --> 00:35:59,599 impeachment but statements 1151 00:36:03,829 --> 00:36:01,520 like this that he was making again and 1152 00:36:06,390 --> 00:36:03,839 again in during the campaign 1153 00:36:08,550 --> 00:36:06,400 the only way we lose this election if it 1154 00:36:11,349 --> 00:36:08,560 is if it's rigged 1155 00:36:11,990 --> 00:36:11,359 now that's a pretty absurd statement 1156 00:36:13,910 --> 00:36:12,000 trump makes a lot 1157 00:36:15,990 --> 00:36:13,920 of absurd statements and so yeah you 1158 00:36:18,390 --> 00:36:16,000 know you you just kind of 1159 00:36:20,150 --> 00:36:18,400 roll off your back but to continually 1160 00:36:21,910 --> 00:36:20,160 rile people up in that way to say that 1161 00:36:25,270 --> 00:36:21,920 if we lose it had to have been 1162 00:36:26,790 --> 00:36:25,280 rigged i don't think that's right i know 1163 00:36:28,710 --> 00:36:26,800 a lot of conservatives are standing 1164 00:36:31,030 --> 00:36:28,720 right now and i appreciate that 1165 00:36:33,670 --> 00:36:31,040 but if we'll remember florida was lost 1166 00:36:35,349 --> 00:36:33,680 by 538 votes 1167 00:36:37,349 --> 00:36:35,359 you know i mean just if you look at the 1168 00:36:40,870 --> 00:36:37,359 specific numbers on the mass just 1169 00:36:42,710 --> 00:36:40,880 look uh right but point point being what 1170 00:36:44,310 --> 00:36:42,720 mark levin just came out and said there 1171 00:36:47,109 --> 00:36:44,320 were violations how they managed the 1172 00:36:49,190 --> 00:36:47,119 the constant just yet yesterday there 1173 00:36:50,870 --> 00:36:49,200 were still violations on four states on 1174 00:36:51,910 --> 00:36:50,880 how they managed deadlines on mail-in 1175 00:36:53,670 --> 00:36:51,920 ballots 1176 00:36:56,150 --> 00:36:53,680 i mean we actually had margins in 1177 00:36:56,390 --> 00:36:56,160 multiple states the supreme court failed 1178 00:36:59,910 --> 00:36:56,400 us 1179 00:37:01,349 --> 00:36:59,920 go into a rational inquiry i was like oh 1180 00:37:02,069 --> 00:37:01,359 that's this case in this case in this 1181 00:37:03,190 --> 00:37:02,079 case 1182 00:37:04,150 --> 00:37:03,200 they could have made the choice to hear 1183 00:37:05,589 --> 00:37:04,160 a case they could have brought it they 1184 00:37:06,069 --> 00:37:05,599 could have kept us out of this violence 1185 00:37:07,670 --> 00:37:06,079 so 1186 00:37:09,270 --> 00:37:07,680 i don't think trump acted poorly and i 1187 00:37:11,750 --> 00:37:09,280 think they're look i was in 1188 00:37:13,510 --> 00:37:11,760 i was door knocking for romney and uh in 1189 00:37:16,069 --> 00:37:13,520 the last election uh prior 1190 00:37:17,829 --> 00:37:16,079 and uh you know i saw buses of people 1191 00:37:20,710 --> 00:37:17,839 pull up in ohio 1192 00:37:22,470 --> 00:37:20,720 uh a lot of people of ethnicity paid for 1193 00:37:23,349 --> 00:37:22,480 by other people i saw them going to vote 1194 00:37:25,670 --> 00:37:23,359 twice 1195 00:37:27,270 --> 00:37:25,680 i mean there's def there's always fraud 1196 00:37:29,109 --> 00:37:27,280 it's just a matter was there enough 1197 00:37:30,950 --> 00:37:29,119 all we needed was a fair place to to 1198 00:37:33,109 --> 00:37:30,960 hear it out but people are too scared 1199 00:37:34,310 --> 00:37:33,119 america went for stability instead of 1200 00:37:35,829 --> 00:37:34,320 justice 1201 00:37:37,829 --> 00:37:35,839 you know which i get it look we didn't 1202 00:37:40,069 --> 00:37:37,839 bail out bear stearns we didn't 1203 00:37:41,030 --> 00:37:40,079 bail out lehman we bared out goldman 1204 00:37:42,630 --> 00:37:41,040 sachs 1205 00:37:43,829 --> 00:37:42,640 so i still think there was some bad eye 1206 00:37:45,190 --> 00:37:43,839 i'm not going to go down the route there 1207 00:37:46,390 --> 00:37:45,200 wasn't fraud i'll go down the route that 1208 00:37:48,069 --> 00:37:46,400 they didn't give us the audience at 1209 00:37:49,190 --> 00:37:48,079 least to eliminate the possibility to 1210 00:37:52,950 --> 00:37:49,200 unify us 1211 00:37:55,190 --> 00:37:52,960 so while i i mean yeah look i'm i'm 1212 00:37:56,230 --> 00:37:55,200 obviously with you and you'd have to be 1213 00:37:58,069 --> 00:37:56,240 dumb 1214 00:38:00,069 --> 00:37:58,079 not to be with you to say that there was 1215 00:38:01,190 --> 00:38:00,079 some fraud obviously there was some 1216 00:38:03,510 --> 00:38:01,200 level of fraud right 1217 00:38:05,109 --> 00:38:03,520 whether it's one vote or a thousand 1218 00:38:06,790 --> 00:38:05,119 votes or a million votes 1219 00:38:09,589 --> 00:38:06,800 we know that there's always some level 1220 00:38:13,750 --> 00:38:09,599 of fraud but it's incumbent on 1221 00:38:15,589 --> 00:38:13,760 the person who is a alleging fraud 1222 00:38:17,349 --> 00:38:15,599 to prove it and unfortunately the way 1223 00:38:19,510 --> 00:38:17,359 the system is there's very limited time 1224 00:38:21,430 --> 00:38:19,520 to do that if you think about 1225 00:38:23,829 --> 00:38:21,440 november 6th or whatever it is and 1226 00:38:25,910 --> 00:38:23,839 you've got two months to get it all done 1227 00:38:27,990 --> 00:38:25,920 that's very very difficult and it's 1228 00:38:28,630 --> 00:38:28,000 never been really done before so it's an 1229 00:38:30,069 --> 00:38:28,640 uphill 1230 00:38:32,630 --> 00:38:30,079 battle so i don't know about i mean 1231 00:38:35,990 --> 00:38:32,640 clearly media tried to suppress 1232 00:38:37,270 --> 00:38:36,000 any claim that there was fraud uh so you 1233 00:38:39,349 --> 00:38:37,280 clearly had that 1234 00:38:40,470 --> 00:38:39,359 but you know you had the court system 1235 00:38:41,510 --> 00:38:40,480 you had the supreme court you've got a 1236 00:38:44,390 --> 00:38:41,520 supreme court that's 1237 00:38:46,550 --> 00:38:44,400 that's mostly conservatives right now so 1238 00:38:48,230 --> 00:38:46,560 and they weren't able to do it so 1239 00:38:50,069 --> 00:38:48,240 i mean on top of this let's throw in the 1240 00:38:53,030 --> 00:38:50,079 biden situation media 1241 00:38:53,910 --> 00:38:53,040 big tech genuinely suppressed there was 1242 00:38:56,390 --> 00:38:53,920 a huge 1243 00:38:57,349 --> 00:38:56,400 outpouring of people left and right that 1244 00:38:59,109 --> 00:38:57,359 said we might have 1245 00:39:01,190 --> 00:38:59,119 to the left that we might have changed 1246 00:39:04,470 --> 00:39:01,200 our vote if the if the laptop 1247 00:39:06,870 --> 00:39:04,480 information had just not run in the the 1248 00:39:08,870 --> 00:39:06,880 realm of freedom of speech because if 1249 00:39:10,870 --> 00:39:08,880 you look at the presidential act of 2018 1250 00:39:12,550 --> 00:39:10,880 you can't have any in a relationship 1251 00:39:13,109 --> 00:39:12,560 with a foreign company now what happens 1252 00:39:14,630 --> 00:39:13,119 is 1253 00:39:15,910 --> 00:39:14,640 as soon as you're in the presidency in 1254 00:39:17,510 --> 00:39:15,920 the united states of america you're 1255 00:39:18,550 --> 00:39:17,520 unindictable essentially besides 1256 00:39:21,990 --> 00:39:18,560 impeachment 1257 00:39:23,750 --> 00:39:22,000 and it rarely happens so our elites are 1258 00:39:24,630 --> 00:39:23,760 not subject to law in the united states 1259 00:39:27,190 --> 00:39:24,640 of america 1260 00:39:28,390 --> 00:39:27,200 so on top of this biden information came 1261 00:39:29,750 --> 00:39:28,400 out if you remember he was definitely 1262 00:39:31,510 --> 00:39:29,760 wearing a wire they showed it 1263 00:39:33,030 --> 00:39:31,520 he turned halfway through and went from 1264 00:39:36,310 --> 00:39:33,040 his brain watered 1265 00:39:38,150 --> 00:39:36,320 uh timbre to just remember to mail in 1266 00:39:39,270 --> 00:39:38,160 your balance mail in your balance smell 1267 00:39:41,349 --> 00:39:39,280 it come on man 1268 00:39:42,870 --> 00:39:41,359 and and he just changed like an 1269 00:39:43,829 --> 00:39:42,880 automaton and people just started oh 1270 00:39:45,430 --> 00:39:43,839 mail in your balance we 1271 00:39:47,109 --> 00:39:45,440 don't need to hear the debates and then 1272 00:39:48,390 --> 00:39:47,119 they repress that bible green well that 1273 00:39:50,390 --> 00:39:48,400 you know what that laptop's 1274 00:39:52,550 --> 00:39:50,400 legitimate i mean there are there's real 1275 00:39:54,069 --> 00:39:52,560 compromises of somebody the son of a 1276 00:39:55,829 --> 00:39:54,079 president there they've proven 1277 00:39:57,510 --> 00:39:55,839 actually in a relationship we've proven 1278 00:39:58,630 --> 00:39:57,520 fisa so i don't know 1279 00:40:01,589 --> 00:39:58,640 but what's exciting to me about the 1280 00:40:03,750 --> 00:40:01,599 laptop and and also the suppression of 1281 00:40:05,750 --> 00:40:03,760 of trump on twitter and so on is that 1282 00:40:08,710 --> 00:40:05,760 you see these companies 1283 00:40:10,390 --> 00:40:08,720 that are willing to go against their own 1284 00:40:12,950 --> 00:40:10,400 economic interests 1285 00:40:13,670 --> 00:40:12,960 because to support the left which is a 1286 00:40:16,390 --> 00:40:13,680 shocking 1287 00:40:17,270 --> 00:40:16,400 to me so this was potentially one of the 1288 00:40:19,589 --> 00:40:17,280 greatest 1289 00:40:20,870 --> 00:40:19,599 most fascinating stories ever is that 1290 00:40:23,750 --> 00:40:20,880 this idiot 1291 00:40:23,990 --> 00:40:23,760 hunter biden leaves his freaking laptop 1292 00:40:26,950 --> 00:40:24,000 at 1293 00:40:28,630 --> 00:40:26,960 a computer store and it turns out to 1294 00:40:30,950 --> 00:40:28,640 have all this stuff on it 1295 00:40:32,230 --> 00:40:30,960 and it's absolutely confirmed 100 true 1296 00:40:34,390 --> 00:40:32,240 the fbi has confirmed 1297 00:40:35,430 --> 00:40:34,400 all of this it's on the front page of 1298 00:40:37,270 --> 00:40:35,440 the new york post 1299 00:40:38,790 --> 00:40:37,280 yet they still you know they banned the 1300 00:40:40,870 --> 00:40:38,800 post from twitter and so on 1301 00:40:42,630 --> 00:40:40,880 so so here you got the potential of a 1302 00:40:43,589 --> 00:40:42,640 fabulous story but they're willing to 1303 00:40:46,630 --> 00:40:43,599 kill it 1304 00:40:48,150 --> 00:40:46,640 simply because it's not supportive of 1305 00:40:49,670 --> 00:40:48,160 the left's position 1306 00:40:51,990 --> 00:40:49,680 yeah and the same thing with trump trump 1307 00:40:53,589 --> 00:40:52,000 made twitter in the past four years 1308 00:40:55,349 --> 00:40:53,599 twitter who knows where twitter would be 1309 00:40:56,550 --> 00:40:55,359 right now but for trump yet they're 1310 00:40:58,870 --> 00:40:56,560 still willing 1311 00:40:59,670 --> 00:40:58,880 to kick the guy off after he made 1312 00:41:01,270 --> 00:40:59,680 twitter 1313 00:41:03,030 --> 00:41:01,280 right yeah i mean you're telling me the 1314 00:41:05,510 --> 00:41:03,040 new york post event i mean that 1315 00:41:06,790 --> 00:41:05,520 look they then kaylee kaley was silenced 1316 00:41:07,430 --> 00:41:06,800 i mean we covered it last night he's 1317 00:41:11,430 --> 00:41:07,440 like 1318 00:41:12,630 --> 00:41:11,440 now jack dorsey i'm sorry to me he's the 1319 00:41:14,550 --> 00:41:12,640 enemy of the state right now 1320 00:41:16,309 --> 00:41:14,560 i don't he i haven't elected him he's 1321 00:41:17,430 --> 00:41:16,319 not the fourth branch of government nor 1322 00:41:20,150 --> 00:41:17,440 is the ap 1323 00:41:20,550 --> 00:41:20,160 so we also had the media like telling us 1324 00:41:22,870 --> 00:41:20,560 that 1325 00:41:23,990 --> 00:41:22,880 it was over i've never seen stuff like 1326 00:41:25,109 --> 00:41:24,000 this so my um 1327 00:41:26,870 --> 00:41:25,119 you know it's interesting we're choosing 1328 00:41:27,750 --> 00:41:26,880 a title for this new news max all-star i 1329 00:41:29,589 --> 00:41:27,760 got invited 1330 00:41:31,430 --> 00:41:29,599 newsmax back to mannex we accident our 1331 00:41:32,870 --> 00:41:31,440 book i got invited to write for them so 1332 00:41:34,309 --> 00:41:32,880 i just their first one and we're doing 1333 00:41:35,910 --> 00:41:34,319 i just released a second article today 1334 00:41:36,230 --> 00:41:35,920 and we're looking at the title and you 1335 00:41:39,349 --> 00:41:36,240 know 1336 00:41:42,870 --> 00:41:39,359 um i i i'm i'm 1337 00:41:44,790 --> 00:41:42,880 i'm unapologetically rational so i think 1338 00:41:45,270 --> 00:41:44,800 it's really important with what's going 1339 00:41:47,990 --> 00:41:45,280 on with 1340 00:41:49,430 --> 00:41:48,000 media to i don't want to be an angry 1341 00:41:52,150 --> 00:41:49,440 person but i'm like hey man you can't 1342 00:41:53,589 --> 00:41:52,160 keep selling me the same repeated loop 1343 00:41:55,829 --> 00:41:53,599 and telling me it's true because you 1344 00:41:57,190 --> 00:41:55,839 repeat it and negating me every time i 1345 00:41:59,270 --> 00:41:57,200 challenge free speech so 1346 00:42:01,030 --> 00:41:59,280 we're in a really dangerous place james 1347 00:42:02,950 --> 00:42:01,040 and you know thank god for your uh 1348 00:42:04,470 --> 00:42:02,960 cast here and the work that you're doing 1349 00:42:05,829 --> 00:42:04,480 and guys like ourselves 1350 00:42:07,510 --> 00:42:05,839 uh it's interesting though because 1351 00:42:09,589 --> 00:42:07,520 there's also this wild westing 1352 00:42:11,349 --> 00:42:09,599 happening as you said in the meteor 1353 00:42:12,710 --> 00:42:11,359 revolution right now so it's going to be 1354 00:42:14,710 --> 00:42:12,720 interesting how these are 1355 00:42:15,750 --> 00:42:14,720 organized and what's what's the future 1356 00:42:17,109 --> 00:42:15,760 of the internet when everything that's 1357 00:42:17,589 --> 00:42:17,119 going on it should be interesting times 1358 00:42:19,550 --> 00:42:17,599 yeah 1359 00:42:21,270 --> 00:42:19,560 well last thing i'll cover as i said the 1360 00:42:25,430 --> 00:42:21,280 inauguration uh 1361 00:42:29,430 --> 00:42:25,440 episode and and the future of trump 1362 00:42:31,030 --> 00:42:29,440 uh with the republicans i mean 1363 00:42:32,630 --> 00:42:31,040 republicans are pretty divided right now 1364 00:42:34,309 --> 00:42:32,640 because there is a pretty good 1365 00:42:36,230 --> 00:42:34,319 constituency that 1366 00:42:38,309 --> 00:42:36,240 that feels that trump did take things 1367 00:42:39,270 --> 00:42:38,319 too far and that would like to see him 1368 00:42:41,030 --> 00:42:39,280 just kind of 1369 00:42:43,349 --> 00:42:41,040 move on and then you've got the other 1370 00:42:46,470 --> 00:42:43,359 constituency that is 1371 00:42:47,990 --> 00:42:46,480 hardcore trumpers and 1372 00:42:50,069 --> 00:42:48,000 um believe everything you know was 1373 00:42:52,870 --> 00:42:50,079 stolen from him 1374 00:42:54,230 --> 00:42:52,880 yeah what is the future of trump and the 1375 00:42:55,829 --> 00:42:54,240 gop 1376 00:42:57,510 --> 00:42:55,839 look i think what's more importantly is 1377 00:42:58,550 --> 00:42:57,520 what happened to the gop because of 1378 00:43:01,510 --> 00:42:58,560 trump 1379 00:43:02,470 --> 00:43:01,520 and you know the mccain and the romney 1380 00:43:05,349 --> 00:43:02,480 as we're seeing 1381 00:43:07,030 --> 00:43:05,359 romney's real recalcitrant rhino colors 1382 00:43:09,430 --> 00:43:07,040 right it's interesting 1383 00:43:11,109 --> 00:43:09,440 uh and i back that guy you know i still 1384 00:43:12,550 --> 00:43:11,119 have a mccain sticker on my shirt on my 1385 00:43:15,589 --> 00:43:12,560 surfboard you know 1386 00:43:17,030 --> 00:43:15,599 i mean i really went for the old school 1387 00:43:19,270 --> 00:43:17,040 gop because i choose 1388 00:43:21,710 --> 00:43:19,280 one of two rational alternatives which 1389 00:43:23,270 --> 00:43:21,720 is big government versus over hyper 1390 00:43:24,870 --> 00:43:23,280 accommodationism which i think is 1391 00:43:27,270 --> 00:43:24,880 deconstructive to our freedom and our 1392 00:43:29,349 --> 00:43:27,280 way of life um so i think that 1393 00:43:30,589 --> 00:43:29,359 the red pill of trump was a real 1394 00:43:32,150 --> 00:43:30,599 positive shake-up for the 1395 00:43:35,190 --> 00:43:32,160 deconstructionist 1396 00:43:36,950 --> 00:43:35,200 um anti-institutional element of uh of 1397 00:43:38,150 --> 00:43:36,960 what republicanism is about 1398 00:43:40,230 --> 00:43:38,160 how it's going to settle in and 1399 00:43:41,829 --> 00:43:40,240 integrate we'll find out and i'm i'm 1400 00:43:43,670 --> 00:43:41,839 also a rationalist on the societal level 1401 00:43:44,550 --> 00:43:43,680 because look george floyd as negative as 1402 00:43:46,950 --> 00:43:44,560 that was 1403 00:43:48,069 --> 00:43:46,960 we now have better training in police 1404 00:43:49,910 --> 00:43:48,079 force me too 1405 00:43:51,589 --> 00:43:49,920 uh we now have a better workforce for 1406 00:43:53,670 --> 00:43:51,599 women how does everything settle in and 1407 00:43:56,230 --> 00:43:53,680 get integrated into our society 1408 00:43:57,829 --> 00:43:56,240 so i think you know trump really brought 1409 00:44:00,230 --> 00:43:57,839 forward more of our uh 1410 00:44:01,430 --> 00:44:00,240 our uh the importance that americans 1411 00:44:03,589 --> 00:44:01,440 want to stay you know 1412 00:44:04,950 --> 00:44:03,599 ultimately free i'm excited for what 1413 00:44:05,750 --> 00:44:04,960 that's going to do in the party as far 1414 00:44:06,790 --> 00:44:05,760 as trump 1415 00:44:07,829 --> 00:44:06,800 you know i think trump's going to 1416 00:44:08,870 --> 00:44:07,839 sustain i mean they're already talking 1417 00:44:09,430 --> 00:44:08,880 about his daughters and how they're 1418 00:44:11,030 --> 00:44:09,440 going to run 1419 00:44:12,710 --> 00:44:11,040 i think you know this thing about him 1420 00:44:13,190 --> 00:44:12,720 really challenging at the end i think he 1421 00:44:15,349 --> 00:44:13,200 didn't want 1422 00:44:16,710 --> 00:44:15,359 he's like he's a dad he's a granddad i 1423 00:44:17,349 --> 00:44:16,720 think he didn't want to ruin his kids 1424 00:44:18,950 --> 00:44:17,359 lives 1425 00:44:20,390 --> 00:44:18,960 because ultimately think about if he had 1426 00:44:22,390 --> 00:44:20,400 actually really gone down 1427 00:44:23,750 --> 00:44:22,400 did the insurrection act or something 1428 00:44:25,349 --> 00:44:23,760 the entire family's lives would have 1429 00:44:27,829 --> 00:44:25,359 been ruined and their legacy and their 1430 00:44:29,589 --> 00:44:27,839 empire and i think he hit that stop gap 1431 00:44:31,030 --> 00:44:29,599 so i think he's got greater plans in 1432 00:44:31,990 --> 00:44:31,040 media i think he's got greater plans for 1433 00:44:33,589 --> 00:44:32,000 his children 1434 00:44:35,829 --> 00:44:33,599 and i appreciate everything he did in 1435 00:44:36,710 --> 00:44:35,839 his 390-something achievements he did a 1436 00:44:37,829 --> 00:44:36,720 good job 1437 00:44:39,349 --> 00:44:37,839 but i think people are going to keep 1438 00:44:42,069 --> 00:44:39,359 arm's length from him for a little bit i 1439 00:44:45,190 --> 00:44:42,079 think he's kryptonite for a while 1440 00:44:48,390 --> 00:44:45,200 yeah i feel similarly i i think that um 1441 00:44:51,030 --> 00:44:48,400 you know putting america first 1442 00:44:52,150 --> 00:44:51,040 um it was essential and something that 1443 00:44:54,390 --> 00:44:52,160 had totally gone 1444 00:44:55,270 --> 00:44:54,400 astray so the whole idea that america 1445 00:44:56,550 --> 00:44:55,280 first 1446 00:44:58,309 --> 00:44:56,560 uh is a principle i think this is going 1447 00:45:00,470 --> 00:44:58,319 to say in in in the wake up 1448 00:45:02,150 --> 00:45:00,480 regarding china i think that people are 1449 00:45:04,870 --> 00:45:02,160 awoken as to china 1450 00:45:06,470 --> 00:45:04,880 people are awoken as to iran um so i 1451 00:45:07,750 --> 00:45:06,480 think those are the lasting 1452 00:45:10,230 --> 00:45:07,760 yeah i think those are the last things 1453 00:45:10,790 --> 00:45:10,240 things then you know the negatives in my 1454 00:45:13,829 --> 00:45:10,800 view 1455 00:45:15,910 --> 00:45:13,839 is you know the narcissistic personality 1456 00:45:17,589 --> 00:45:15,920 that kind of makes everything about him 1457 00:45:18,470 --> 00:45:17,599 so that's why i'd love to see us move 1458 00:45:20,710 --> 00:45:18,480 past 1459 00:45:22,550 --> 00:45:20,720 him and then also the fact that you know 1460 00:45:25,190 --> 00:45:22,560 he's was not a true 1461 00:45:26,230 --> 00:45:25,200 genuine ideological conservative i mean 1462 00:45:29,510 --> 00:45:26,240 for instance i was 1463 00:45:30,309 --> 00:45:29,520 not a fan of this idea of two thousand 1464 00:45:32,870 --> 00:45:30,319 dollars 1465 00:45:33,829 --> 00:45:32,880 for everybody instead of the 600 for 1466 00:45:36,630 --> 00:45:33,839 everybody 1467 00:45:37,990 --> 00:45:36,640 that you know that that was also bad 1468 00:45:39,270 --> 00:45:38,000 politically because i think it didn't 1469 00:45:41,829 --> 00:45:39,280 help with the whole georgia 1470 00:45:43,030 --> 00:45:41,839 situation but you know this this 1471 00:45:46,390 --> 00:45:43,040 instinct that he has 1472 00:45:48,710 --> 00:45:46,400 that's not grounded in 1473 00:45:49,510 --> 00:45:48,720 traditional conservatives yeah i mean he 1474 00:45:52,710 --> 00:45:49,520 was dead like 1475 00:45:53,510 --> 00:45:52,720 he was a he was a pro-life democrat who 1476 00:45:55,829 --> 00:45:53,520 was probably 1477 00:45:56,870 --> 00:45:55,839 uh you know just going to church for to 1478 00:45:58,550 --> 00:45:56,880 do business 1479 00:45:59,910 --> 00:45:58,560 who i mean that guy actually had i mean 1480 00:46:01,030 --> 00:45:59,920 i know people close to him that guy 1481 00:46:04,069 --> 00:46:01,040 actually had a conversion 1482 00:46:05,750 --> 00:46:04,079 uh in the process but i don't think i 1483 00:46:06,550 --> 00:46:05,760 don't think it was a major conversion 1484 00:46:09,190 --> 00:46:06,560 like perhaps 1485 00:46:10,550 --> 00:46:09,200 you had um this one i've said this 1486 00:46:13,750 --> 00:46:10,560 before probably on the show 1487 00:46:14,630 --> 00:46:13,760 that i think that schumer made a big 1488 00:46:15,990 --> 00:46:14,640 mistake 1489 00:46:17,109 --> 00:46:16,000 he would never left would never 1490 00:46:17,910 --> 00:46:17,119 acknowledge it because everything just 1491 00:46:19,990 --> 00:46:17,920 had to be 1492 00:46:21,990 --> 00:46:20,000 resist trump resist trump resist trump 1493 00:46:23,430 --> 00:46:22,000 but both of them are new yorkers they're 1494 00:46:26,069 --> 00:46:23,440 both kind of the same style 1495 00:46:28,950 --> 00:46:26,079 kind of guy yeah trump loves to be loved 1496 00:46:30,870 --> 00:46:28,960 you you like him he likes you period 1497 00:46:33,109 --> 00:46:30,880 schumer could have played the hell out 1498 00:46:34,630 --> 00:46:33,119 of trump if he had just come in there 1499 00:46:35,829 --> 00:46:34,640 and befriended him and i think they 1500 00:46:37,109 --> 00:46:35,839 could have gotten a lot done together 1501 00:46:38,950 --> 00:46:37,119 and even some things that you and i may 1502 00:46:41,430 --> 00:46:38,960 not have really liked 1503 00:46:42,870 --> 00:46:41,440 yeah no i i agree there are a ton of 1504 00:46:44,069 --> 00:46:42,880 missed opportunities 1505 00:46:46,230 --> 00:46:44,079 and you're basically bringing up one 1506 00:46:48,230 --> 00:46:46,240 thing about his personality sure 1507 00:46:49,829 --> 00:46:48,240 look i mean i'm not uh i'm not some 1508 00:46:51,430 --> 00:46:49,839 blind-eyed trumper because i'm a 1509 00:46:53,030 --> 00:46:51,440 conservative rationalist 1510 00:46:56,470 --> 00:46:53,040 i mean there was some behavior that was 1511 00:46:58,550 --> 00:46:56,480 crazy i did like the transparency of his 1512 00:47:00,550 --> 00:46:58,560 twitter i like seeing a president as a 1513 00:47:02,710 --> 00:47:00,560 person i've never seen that i mean 1514 00:47:03,910 --> 00:47:02,720 i know the speech writers for obama i 1515 00:47:06,069 --> 00:47:03,920 know those guys personally 1516 00:47:07,829 --> 00:47:06,079 they tell me their process i mean it was 1517 00:47:08,630 --> 00:47:07,839 all a fabrication and they were doing 1518 00:47:10,870 --> 00:47:08,640 something else 1519 00:47:12,790 --> 00:47:10,880 at least we saw this guy on the surface 1520 00:47:15,109 --> 00:47:12,800 and i'm going to take that as a win 1521 00:47:15,950 --> 00:47:15,119 oh the access he provided of himself to 1522 00:47:18,950 --> 00:47:15,960 the press was 1523 00:47:21,030 --> 00:47:18,960 unprecedented yeah yeah yeah so but i 1524 00:47:23,430 --> 00:47:21,040 agree what you're saying a lot a lot of 1525 00:47:25,750 --> 00:47:23,440 missed opportunity because of hubris 1526 00:47:26,790 --> 00:47:25,760 but if he hadn't had that hubris his pal 1527 00:47:28,470 --> 00:47:26,800 i mean he was pretty aggressive 1528 00:47:30,309 --> 00:47:28,480 policymaker and nobody wants to 1529 00:47:31,670 --> 00:47:30,319 slow down and keep looking at his trump 1530 00:47:32,309 --> 00:47:31,680 achievements list just came out and we 1531 00:47:34,309 --> 00:47:32,319 covered him 1532 00:47:36,150 --> 00:47:34,319 they're real that guy that guy was 1533 00:47:36,630 --> 00:47:36,160 unstoppably productive i heard his 1534 00:47:38,150 --> 00:47:36,640 process 1535 00:47:40,069 --> 00:47:38,160 is you know here's a meeting room of 1536 00:47:41,829 --> 00:47:40,079 people arguing and he just listen up 1537 00:47:43,589 --> 00:47:41,839 next and go to the next one next do this 1538 00:47:47,030 --> 00:47:43,599 next i heard his process was 1539 00:47:49,030 --> 00:47:47,040 stellar and and fast so i hope that 1540 00:47:50,630 --> 00:47:49,040 look i'm i'm with you man i i just got 1541 00:47:51,430 --> 00:47:50,640 to tell you i hope that our election 1542 00:47:53,349 --> 00:47:51,440 process 1543 00:47:54,549 --> 00:47:53,359 isn't really damaged and level it could 1544 00:47:57,589 --> 00:47:54,559 be i hope 1545 00:47:59,589 --> 00:47:57,599 that uh the dems don't get hijacked by 1546 00:48:01,750 --> 00:47:59,599 the left because it's going to be war 1547 00:48:03,750 --> 00:48:01,760 you know i i don't want a war at home i 1548 00:48:04,549 --> 00:48:03,760 want a war abroad when we're threatened 1549 00:48:05,670 --> 00:48:04,559 and you know 1550 00:48:07,109 --> 00:48:05,680 we're just going to have to 1551 00:48:08,470 --> 00:48:07,119 conservatives are just going to have to 1552 00:48:11,030 --> 00:48:08,480 take every situation 1553 00:48:11,670 --> 00:48:11,040 and decide is this a war-like situation 1554 00:48:14,710 --> 00:48:11,680 now 1555 00:48:16,309 --> 00:48:14,720 or are we americans together so well 1556 00:48:17,910 --> 00:48:16,319 you know one final silver lining i'll 1557 00:48:19,109 --> 00:48:17,920 just state about the capital break-ins 1558 00:48:20,549 --> 00:48:19,119 at least we've got the left now 1559 00:48:23,030 --> 00:48:20,559 condemning violence 1560 00:48:24,470 --> 00:48:23,040 and supporting the police right so it's 1561 00:48:25,109 --> 00:48:24,480 going to be very hard for them next time 1562 00:48:27,270 --> 00:48:25,119 antifa 1563 00:48:28,870 --> 00:48:27,280 you know gets all riled up for the 1564 00:48:29,990 --> 00:48:28,880 they're going to really be contradicting 1565 00:48:33,270 --> 00:48:30,000 themselves that they don't talk 1566 00:48:34,870 --> 00:48:33,280 speak up then absolutely absolutely yeah 1567 00:48:36,309 --> 00:48:34,880 thank you again to judd dunning you can 1568 00:48:39,190 --> 00:48:36,319 check out his book on amazon 1569 00:48:41,190 --> 00:48:39,200 13.5 reasons why not to be a liberal 1570 00:48:43,190 --> 00:48:41,200 thank you judd thank you michael parker 1571 00:48:44,870 --> 00:48:43,200 our producer thank you all for listening 1572 00:48:51,750 --> 00:48:44,880 we'll be back soon with another episode 1573 00:48:54,950 --> 00:48:53,190 thank you for listening to the truth 1574 00:48:58,470 --> 00:48:54,960 show with jim breslow 1575 00:49:00,710 --> 00:48:58,480 you can find us at hiddentruthshow.com 1576 00:49:01,510 --> 00:49:00,720 follow us on facebook twitter and 1577 00:49:04,150 --> 00:49:01,520 instagram 1578 00:49:06,470 --> 00:49:04,160 that hit the truth show join us again 1579 00:49:07,430 --> 00:49:06,480 next week for another episode of hidden